Are the 60-BRTs at Landover Division...

[LandoverDivision]

Temporairy or permanent? I know this question is kinda dumb but just asking. I'm wondering if Landover has some hidden CNG fuel shop or something somewhere...

[WMATAGMOAGH]

Temporary for the inauguration, I think they should be back at Bladensburg now.  Landover does not have a CNG fueling facility.

[wmata employee]

They will be back  to bladensburg this weekend.

now 5401-5402 will be at FourMile 4 testing purpuses.

[NewFlyer9736BCT]

They will be back  to bladensburg this weekend.

now 5401-5402 will be at FourMile 4 testing purpuses.

Testing purposes as in they will not be on the 5A anymore or what?

[Tristan]

That is the test.

[LandoverDivision]

This pic was from yesterday:

[WES]

All of those people have to get back to the airport.  It's not like everyone went back Wednesday.  They'll probably move them out by next week.

[79MetroExtraMD]

All of those people have to get back to the airport.  It's not like everyone went back Wednesday.  They'll probably move them out by next week.

There are still some stragglers from Inauguration. Maybe sometime in the future Metro can consider running artics full time instead of just running them as extras plus those Orions need to be elsewhere. It's been past time for something else on that line other than 4391-4395. Those buses have packed on alot of highway mileage. I still say transfer 5 6200 high backs to Landover. There's no real reason why Montgomery needs all 12.

[LandoverDivision]

All of those people have to get back to the airport.  It's not like everyone went back Wednesday.  They'll probably move them out by next week.

There are still some stragglers from Inauguration. Maybe sometime in the future Metro can consider running artics full time instead of just running them as extras plus those Orions need to be elsewhere. It's been past time for something else on that line other than 4391-4395. Those buses have packed on alot of highway mileage. I still say transfer 5 6200 high backs to Landover. There's no real reason why Montgomery needs all 12.

100% agreed. I've been wondering why Landover didn't get 6206-6217. That's just stupid.

[WayneNYC]

Why does Landover need the suburban interior New Flyers if they already have enough Orion Vs for B30 service?  Highway mileage is better than city mileage on any vehicle.  I understand from a transit fan's point of view that you'd like to see something different on the B30.  However, if they chose to send the 6200s to Landover for no good reason, then that would be stupid.

[WES]

My only question is why WMATA has bought so many surburbans in the first place.  Now the FMR surburbans I can understand, but getting D40LFR surburbans was sort of a waste of money.

Now if the surburbans were to be truly used for express routes then those last batch of D40LFRs shouldn't have been surburbans.  I know Montgomery has the J5,7,9 and also the Z11,13, but what other surburban routes do they run, honestly I might not have gotten all of them. 

Landover MAY have a few more "express" routes than Montgomery, in that they have the B30, 87,88, B29, B31 and I wouldn't really count the B21,22 as express routes, just routes that spend a significant amount of time on the highway.  With that said I still don't understand the need to have some of the D40LFRs as surburbans.  Also the said surburbans don't even run on surburban style routes most of the time.

Now the B30 thing is just more service at certain times(I have heard the weekends it gets packed) and in that sense that is where service is needed, when the money is available to provide such service.......or PG  and/or Anne Arundel County and Maryland pony up more money for that increased service.

All in all the surburbans are where they are because WMATA felt that where they are there was a need for them there.

[WES]

All of those people have to get back to the airport.  It's not like everyone went back Wednesday.  They'll probably move them out by next week.

There are still some stragglers from Inauguration. Maybe sometime in the future Metro can consider running artics full time instead of just running them as extras plus those Orions need to be elsewhere. It's been past time for something else on that line other than 4391-4395. Those buses have packed on alot of highway mileage. I still say transfer 5 6200 high backs to Landover. There's no real reason why Montgomery needs all 12.

It is not artics they need, just more service at certain times.  And there have been other buses on the B30, they just weren't surburbans. 

Lastly WMATA isn't going to change buses on the B30 because we want to see something different on it.  Just deal with whatever is on it, at least there is bus service on that route to begin with.

[WayneNYC]

My only question is why WMATA has bought so many surburbans in the first place.  Now the FMR surburbans I can understand, but getting D40LFR surburbans was sort of a waste of money.

Agreed.  When Montgomery rec'd their D40LFRs, I was thinking that their remaining Orion V suburbans would get transferred out.  It is a waste as their buses spend lots of time on local routes.

[OrionFlyer]

Isn't possible that some of the new New Flyer BRTs that go to Landover will be suburbans with luggage racks like the 6200s? Likewise for Montgomery and West Ox?

[WMATAGMOAGH]

The T2 gets suburban New Flyers fairly often and they do fine there.

Orion Vs on the B30 make more sense in my opinion since the space lost from the on board luggage racks is fairly small when compared to what would be lost on a low floor bus.  Suitcases on the 5A block the aisles on the Orion VIIs and make boarding and alighting along the way out to Dulles very difficult, especially if you want to get off the bus at an intermediate stop such as Tysons or Herndon-Monroe.