Transit in Cuba???

C40LF_2464 · December 28, 2008, 08:21:05 PM

I never been to Cuba but i was looking at pics of some of there "buses" but is this actually legal???

Tristan · December 28, 2008, 08:45:32 PM

Well...different countries have different laws...

There is/was a transit system here in the states that did/has a similar setup, on the West Coast I think but I don't remember who.

79MetroExtraMD · December 28, 2008, 08:46:57 PM

Quote from: Tristan on December 28, 2008, 08:45:32 PM
Well...different countries have different laws...

There is/was a transit system here in the states that did/has a similar setup, on the West Coast I think but I don't remember who.

OCTA had a similar thing back in the late 80s, early 90s i think. Superbus I think.

Antozilla · December 28, 2008, 09:00:17 PM

Superbus is correct

Tritransit Area · December 29, 2008, 10:56:43 AM

Quote from: DE40LFR on December 28, 2008, 08:21:05 PM
I never been to Cuba but i was looking at pics of some of there "buses" but is this actually legal???

Yessir. I think those are makeshift buses with other vehicles that are joined together or something like that. Anyway, they are called the Superbuses, and, while they provide super capacity, are wretched vehicles to have to ride.

Cuba (Havana?) is supposed to replace these with many new buses, such as artics and whatnot if I remember correctly.

WMATAGMOAGH · December 29, 2008, 11:50:09 AM

QuoteCuba (Havana?) is supposed to replace these with many new buses, such as artics and whatnot if I remember correctly.

So says Wikipedia. It says the replacements will be Chinese, but it doesn't provide any other information.

aznboy4305 · December 29, 2008, 03:31:48 PM

Come to think of it...what if they're not legal?! I think you should call the authorities in Cuba and inform them of such illegal vehicles running around in their terrority.

WMAveteran · December 30, 2008, 12:26:20 AM

This situation is just another reason to eliminate the trade embargo the United States has placed on Cuba. Without the trade embargo Cuba could buy buses made in the United States that wouldn't have to be transported half-way around the world and that would assist our balance of payments problem. What do you think the Cubans would use for hard currency?
According to my written source (CITY TRANSIT BUSES OF THE 20TH CENTURY, William Luke and Linda Metler 2005, p.131) the Super Bus was first presented in 1984. The "trailer-type bus (was) pulled by a truck tractor (manufactured by WHITE) . . . and accommodated 60 passengers." "For a short period in 1987 Orange(County) Transit District ran one of the two Super Buses between Orange County cities and downtown Los Angeles."

Antozilla · December 30, 2008, 07:32:08 AM

Actually I think those ARE the Superbuses. As for ending the embargo. Screw those commies. They want to be obstinate and raise hell, let em ride Commie buses. Nabi is too good for em.

They deserve Orion VII or less if such a thing exists

Scrabbleship · December 30, 2008, 07:50:41 AM

You do know that NABI's roots are in so-called "commie buses", yes?

We could make nice with Cuba, but what if Cuba doesn't want us? I remember a story of the Regan Administration sending an envoy to Havana late in his second term to try to make nice and the Castro Brothers rejected him.

Besides, communism isn't THAT bad. At least they kill their capital criminals and don't give them better lives than many freed people.

Antozilla · December 30, 2008, 08:07:54 AM

Actually I don't know that about NABI, but you have a point about criminals

WMAveteran · December 31, 2008, 12:29:59 AM

Quote from: Antozilla on December 30, 2008, 07:32:08 AM
Actually I think those ARE the Superbuses. As for ending the embargo. Screw those commies. They want to be obstinate and raise hell, let em ride Commie buses. Nabi is too good for em.

They deserve Orion VII or less if such a thing exists

Actually, according to the photograph in my book, the Cuban bus is not the original Super Bus. The Cuban bus has a twin screw cab-over-engine tractor while the original Super Bus has a single screw cab-over-engine tractor (with an electronic destination sign) and the passenger trailer only has one rear axle without the tunnel looking appendage that connects the front and back modules in the Cuban bus.

aznboy4305 · December 31, 2008, 12:41:41 AM

Whats a single/twin screw?

WayneNYC · December 31, 2008, 10:53:03 AM

Quote from: WMAveteran on December 31, 2008, 12:29:59 AM
Quote from: Antozilla on December 30, 2008, 07:32:08 AM
Actually I think those ARE the Superbuses. As for ending the embargo. Screw those commies. They want to be obstinate and raise hell, let em ride Commie buses. Nabi is too good for em.

They deserve Orion VII or less if such a thing exists

Actually, according to the photograph in my book, the Cuban bus is not the original Super Bus. The Cuban bus has a twin screw cab-over-engine tractor while the original Super Bus has a single screw cab-over-engine tractor (with an electronic destination sign) and the passenger trailer only has one rear axle without the tunnel looking appendage that connects the front and back modules in the Cuban bus.

Agreed. Also I believe the tractor had just 2 axles and I recall the trailer being more moderm looking with A/C. I may look up the article in Bus World later, scan a pic and post here.

WMAveteran · January 02, 2009, 01:09:13 AM

Quote from: aznboy4305 on December 31, 2008, 12:41:41 AM
Whats a single/twin screw?

Sorry, my bad. That is " truck" talk for the number of powered driving axles on a tractor unit. The picture of the Cuban bus shows a tractor unit with two rear powered driving axles and one front steering axle. The actual US Super Bus tractor unit had one front steering axle and one rear powered driving axle. Each powered driving axle is referred to as a "screw".

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