Favorite Worst Metro Buses

[ir0cq09]

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That, George, I can agree with -- and I don't think there would really be a difference between the two.  But I have noticed that they aren't rockets.

The C40LFs have Allisons, the C40LFRs have Voiths.

And the C40LFRs are not slow, they can pick up some speed I've been on some fast C40LFRs. Not to mention they're LFRs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HA! There slow! i was once on the 79 and that stop @ Kennedy street going towards silver spring we were stopped at a red light once it hit green it took us at least 4 mins to get up that little hill...The engine was making some sweet noise though.

Yeah I highly doubt that they have Voiths and Voiths are hill climbers look at the D40LFRs(My favorite in the fleet can't nobody tell me nothing about them so try me lol) the do well going up hills. You might be talking about the Orion VIIs

Actually the C40LFRs do have voith trannys. Thats what i love the C-Gas/Voith combo.

[aznboy4305]

Yeah I highly doubt that they have Voiths...You might be talking about the Orion VIIs

The Orion VIIs also have Voiths...

[Tritransit Area]

The "hill climber" feature of the D40LFRs may have more to do with the ISM rather than the Voith.  The C Gas Plus isn't as powerful...and therefore is slow as molasses in stop and go operation.

[WayneNYC]

The "hill climber" feature of the D40LFRs may have more to do with the ISM rather than the Voith.  The C Gas Plus isn't as powerful...and therefore is slow as molasses in stop and go operation.

On the WMATA CNG buses... My guess is that the Voith tranny is the culprit.  I say this because the C40LFs have pretty good acceleration. 

[Tritransit Area]

Yes, I agree with you, Wayne.  I think the Voith and C Gas plus are the perfect storm, creating slow acceleration.  Otherwise, with the Allisons they move quite nicely.

I wish we had more of the ISL G.  Now THATS a nice CNG engine, and would probably do well with the Voith.  It sure does well with the Allisons in the 60-BRTs and the ZF (which I rode in Phoenix on their newer C40LFRs)

[Annex4421]

The "hill climber" feature of the D40LFRs may have more to do with the ISM rather than the Voith.  The C Gas Plus isn't as powerful...and therefore is slow as molasses in stop and go operation.

On the WMATA CNG buses... My guess is that the Voith tranny is the culprit.  I say this because the C40LFs have pretty good acceleration.

Well the CNG tank itself is the culprit all of that added weight.

[Chargerdodge9]

I detest the XDE40s. They are such a down grade from the DE42LFAs. Should of brought more of them or some Orion VII  hybrids.