Franconia-Springfield to Greenbelt Service

[Antozilla]

SOLUTION:

Spend 100 M for a little tunneling and a switch to take Silver line and orange line trains off the orange line and route then towards Reagan and points south.

this will also allow trains heading north on the blue line to go to Dulles. 

There is no way even if they get rid of all the blue line trains going through Rosslyn that the orange line can add the silver line capacity.  PLUS it will allow seamless service from Vienna McLean et al for all those BRAC jobs going to Ft. Belvoir.

[Sand Box John]

Antozilla
SOLUTION:

Spend 100 M for a little tunneling and a switch to take Silver line and orange line trains off the orange line and route then towards Reagan and points south.

this will also allow trains heading north on the blue line to go to Dulles. 

There is no way even if they get rid of all the blue line trains going through Rosslyn that the orange line can add the silver line capacity.  PLUS it will allow seamless service from Vienna McLean et al for all those BRAC jobs going to Ft. Belvoir.

That idea was floated as part of the Future Metrorail Capacity Needs(423 KB PDF file) dated 04 18 2008. See page 12.

[WMATAGMOAGH]

Antozilla
SOLUTION:

Spend 100 M for a little tunneling and a switch to take Silver line and orange line trains off the orange line and route then towards Reagan and points south.

this will also allow trains heading north on the blue line to go to Dulles. 

There is no way even if they get rid of all the blue line trains going through Rosslyn that the orange line can add the silver line capacity.  PLUS it will allow seamless service from Vienna McLean et al for all those BRAC jobs going to Ft. Belvoir.

That idea was floated as part of the Future Metrorail Capacity Needs(423 KB PDF file) dated 04 18 2008. See page 12.

My guess is that such a track will be primarily for yard transfers and reroutes, not for regularly scheduled service.

SOLUTION:

Spend 100 M for a little tunneling and a switch to take Silver line and orange line trains off the orange line and route then towards Reagan and points south.

this will also allow trains heading north on the blue line to go to Dulles. 

There is no way even if they get rid of all the blue line trains going through Rosslyn that the orange line can add the silver line capacity.  PLUS it will allow seamless service from Vienna McLean et al for all those BRAC jobs going to Ft. Belvoir.

The number of people traveling from Arlington to Alexandria is not significant enough to warrant its own rail line.  The Blue Line Split makes plenty of sense and will not be nearly as inconvenient as you make it out to be.

[Antozilla]

That is not the issue, its the people going from Arlington and Alexandria to downtown. 

[WMATAGMOAGH]

Then why should the trains coming from Arlington be routed to the south, as you suggested? 

Rush hour service is frequent enough that an additional transfer downtown is not a significant hardship, and many 7th Street stops are within walking distance of stops on the Blue/Orange lines.  Those that aren't can change trains, and the Metro Center-Gallery Place connector will facilitate those transfers either further.  Blue Line ridership from F-S is much lower than what is coming off the K Route from Vienna now and what will be coming off that branch once the Silver Line begins operation.  The proposal makes sense even though some will be inconvenienced slightly but many more will benefit.

[Antozilla]

Arlington orange lines trains could be re routed to the south.  The issue is that folsk wanting to go down town would loose half their trains or have to go to L'Enfnat and transfer and come back. 

[Tritransit Area]

Pardon my immense ignorance...I feel I should know this...

What are y'all considering downtown DC.  I thought ALL lines went there, as they are today?

[Antozilla]

Foggy Bottom, McPherson, Rosslyn, Farragut West

[WMATAGMOAGH]

Pardon my immense ignorance...I feel I should know this...

What are y'all considering downtown DC.  I thought ALL lines went there, as they are today?

They all go downtown.  The real issue is which ones go to Farragut Square as opposed to the East End or whatever it is being called nowadays.

Foggy Bottom, McPherson, Rosslyn, Farragut West

Rosslyn isn't part of downtown DC...

Arlington orange lines trains could be re routed to the south.  The issue is that folsk wanting to go down town would loose half their trains or have to go to L'Enfnat and transfer and come back. 

What benefit would sending trains from Vienna towards Pentagon provide to anyone?  It wouldn't help nearly as many people as the Blue Line split will.

[Antozilla]

It allows people from Fairfax to go to Crystal City, Reagan National, and Fort Belvoir without changing connections.  It allows more orange line service to Rosslyn without a new tunnel.  It preserves North South metro rail service to  Arlingtonians.

The Blue Line - Yellow Line split really benefits only those who ride the orange line.  Or those from PG on the blue line who go to Ballston Courthouse etc.     

[WMATAGMOAGH]

Do you have any idea how many take Metro from Ballston to Alexandria?  It is significantly less than the number who take the Metro from Ballston to Farragut Square.  Face it, this connection you are proposing isn't really a high priority.

[LandoverDivision]

Here's my Metrorail ideas:

Get a line that could go from P.G Plaza-New Carollton-Branch Avenue-Andrews AFB then down to Charles County. Waldorf or St. Charles at least. Just my opinion so feel free to oppose.

[Sand Box John]

Oren,

The purpose of the connectors shown on page 12 of the PDF I linked to is to "improve system flexibility", meaning WMATA will be able to divert trains around obstructions and maintenance projects and still be able to maintain reasonable headways.

I don't believe WMATA's intentions is to create a rainbow of new lines with never before conceived terminal pairs.

Shady Grove - New Carrollton
Shady Grove - Largo
Greenbelt - New Carrollton
Greenbelt - Largo
Vienna - Branch Avenue
Vienna - Greenbelt
Vienna - Huntington
Vienna - Franconia-Springfield
Dulles - Branch Avenue
Dulles - Greenbelt
Dulles - Huntington
Dulles - Franconia-Springfield
Vienna to Vienna loop
Dulles to Dulles loop
Huntington to Huntington loop
Franconia-Springfield to Franconia-Springfield loop
Greenbelt - Branch Avenue that loops through Rosslyn

[LandoverDivision]

Oren,

The purpose of the connectors shown on page 12 of the PDF I linked to is to "improve system flexibility", meaning WMATA will be able to divert trains around obstructions and maintenance projects and still be able to maintain reasonable headways.

I don't believe WMATA's intentions is to create a rainbow of new lines with never before conceived terminal pairs.

Shady Grove - New Carrollton
Shady Grove - Largo
Greenbelt - New Carrollton
Greenbelt - Largo
Vienna - Branch Avenue
Vienna - Greenbelt
Vienna - Huntington
Vienna - Franconia-Springfield
Dulles - Branch Avenue
Dulles - Greenbelt
Dulles - Huntington
Dulles - Franconia-Springfield
Vienna to Vienna loop
Dulles to Dulles loop
Huntington to Huntington loop
Franconia-Springfield to Franconia-Springfield loop
Greenbelt - Branch Avenue that loops through Rosslyn

Dulles to Branch-Ave? Very nice.
It's about time we get some service from Greenbelt to New Carrollton. The T16/17 ain't workin' for me. Thank god for the Greenbelt to Largo service. The Green Line looping through Rosslyn? That's odd. Shady Grove to New Carrollton. Freakin' genius!!!

BTW John, when is this all suppose to happen?

[Antozilla]

There is no way to do Shady Grove to New Carrolton as the red line does not share track with the O Line.