Let's increase some more station names!

[SchuminWeb]

I think the suburban stations are less likely to get suffixes because out there, there are fewer close in locations that can be reasonably added to a station name.

Exactly - for my home station, Glenmont, what would you say: Glenmont-KFC?  Glenmont-Glenmont Center?  Glenmont-Fire Department?

[WMATAGMOAGH]

I think the suburban stations are less likely to get suffixes because out there, there are fewer close in locations that can be reasonably added to a station name.

Exactly - for my home station, Glenmont, what would you say: Glenmont-KFC?  Glenmont-Glenmont Center?  Glenmont-Fire Department?

Glenmont-Georgia Avenue-Randolph Road-Layhill Road-Water Tower-Kemp Mill-Aspen Hill-Leisure World-Indian Spring CC-Colesville-Sandy Spring-Olney-Brookville

Did I leave anything out?

[Tristan]

KFC.

[WMATAGMOAGH]

Today, the Washington Post ran a story on coming up with Silver Line station names that says the goal was no more than two words per name, with U Street being a notable exception among others.  Other station naming criteria is also mentioned in the article.  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/20/AR2010102006378.html

[WayneNYC]

Wow!  I didn't think it would get this involved.  The problem I see with imposing a two-word per name limit (and the like) is that they'll be cases where more words are necessary.  Then it becomes an issue of when to allow an exception.  This probably would more often be a fight between local politicians.  I think some common-sense needs to be used in determining station names.  Also, I wish it could be done by WMATA officials without "influence" (and threats) from politicians.   

[Scrabbleship]

Wow!  I didn't think it would get this involved.  The problem I see with imposing a two-word per name limit (and the like) is that they'll be cases where more words are necessary.  Then it becomes an issue of when to allow an exception.  This probably would more often be a fight between local politicians.  I think some common-sense needs to be used in determining station names.  Also, I wish it could be done by WMATA officials without "influence" (and threats) from politicians.   

Wasn't the original aim also to have a letter limit just in case two words needed to be used? I remember something of a letter limit being mentioned somewhere (I think The Great Society Subway). That would work better for "short" 3-word names (Van Ness-UDC, Van Dorn Street).

Graham aside, I think there needs to be some more clarity in station names. Did Mt. Vernon Square really need 7th Street added when there are 4 other stations on 7th Street? Is there any reason for Waterfront to keep a dead SEU around this long? Virginia Tech's building a big research center near Ballston, do we turn Ballston into "Ballston/MU-VT"?

[WMATAGMOAGH]

Unless someone wants to pay for new signage to get rid of SEU, might as well leave it.  New signs do cost money.

Great Society Subway mentions a letter limit for two word stations.  Van Ness is a two word station, not a three word station, the UDC was added later.

[Scrabbleship]

Unless someone wants to pay for new signage to get rid of SEU, might as well leave it.  New signs do cost money.

How much would it cost to just cover up all the SEU's inside the station? SEPTA did that when "Olde City" lost it's E at 2nd St on the MFL. Might be an easy/painless way to change things in the interim.

[SchuminWeb]

I think it gets a bit more complicated than that, considering how many places "Waterfront-SEU" is printed in the system.  But it certainly seems doable, as I remember WMATA's putting brown tape over "New York Ave" at Gallery Place before the former opened.

If you're doing just the station, it seems kind of pointless, because by then you're already there.  Doing everything else would be more helpful, but then again, I'd wait for there to be a lot more changes to signage before slipping this one in, because it is a relatively minor change.

[Scrabbleship]

I think it gets a bit more complicated than that, considering how many places "Waterfront-SEU" is printed in the system.  But it certainly seems doable, as I remember WMATA's putting brown tape over "New York Ave" at Gallery Place before the former opened.

If you're doing just the station, it seems kind of pointless, because by then you're already there.  Doing everything else would be more helpful, but then again, I'd wait for there to be a lot more changes to signage before slipping this one in, because it is a relatively minor change.

There are still some odd signs on the Red Line that say "Tenley Circle" or "Nicholson Lane" even though those names never were put into place. Union Station has a sign on the Shady Grove side that says "Rockville" as the final destination and the odd "Union Station/Visitor Center" pylon there has persisted for a long time. Also, don't forget the odd maps that left off he "A" in "CUA".

I think fixing Waterfront would be a lot easier than the above.

[WMATAGMOAGH]

Unless someone wants to pay for new signage to get rid of SEU, might as well leave it.  New signs do cost money.

How much would it cost to just cover up all the SEU's inside the station? SEPTA did that when "Olde City" lost it's E at 2nd St on the MFL. Might be an easy/painless way to change things in the interim.

IIRC, it costs about $100,000 to change all the signage in a single station, and $400,000 to change maps and stripmaps systemwide. 

I think it gets a bit more complicated than that, considering how many places "Waterfront-SEU" is printed in the system.  But it certainly seems doable, as I remember WMATA's putting brown tape over "New York Ave" at Gallery Place before the former opened.

If you're doing just the station, it seems kind of pointless, because by then you're already there.  Doing everything else would be more helpful, but then again, I'd wait for there to be a lot more changes to signage before slipping this one in, because it is a relatively minor change.

There are still some odd signs on the Red Line that say "Tenley Circle" or "Nicholson Lane" even though those names never were put into place. Union Station has a sign on the Shady Grove side that says "Rockville" as the final destination and the odd "Union Station/Visitor Center" pylon there has persisted for a long time. Also, don't forget the odd maps that left off he "A" in "CUA".

I think fixing Waterfront would be a lot easier than the above.

I'm pretty sure the Rockville last stop sign was removed at Union Station, unless there is another one I was not aware of existing.  John can better explain why those exist, but it has to do with the way they were put on the pylons, and that changes are difficult to make.

[Scrabbleship]

Unless someone wants to pay for new signage to get rid of SEU, might as well leave it.  New signs do cost money.

How much would it cost to just cover up all the SEU's inside the station? SEPTA did that when "Olde City" lost it's E at 2nd St on the MFL. Might be an easy/painless way to change things in the interim.

IIRC, it costs about $100,000 to change all the signage in a single station, and $400,000 to change maps and stripmaps systemwide.

And the cost of tape and manpower, even at inflated ATU 689 rates, to cover up/scrape off all the SEU's inside the station, and maybe every Green Line stripmap, has to be a fraction of that.

[WMATAGMOAGH]

Unless someone wants to pay for new signage to get rid of SEU, might as well leave it.  New signs do cost money.

How much would it cost to just cover up all the SEU's inside the station? SEPTA did that when "Olde City" lost it's E at 2nd St on the MFL. Might be an easy/painless way to change things in the interim.

IIRC, it costs about $100,000 to change all the signage in a single station, and $400,000 to change maps and stripmaps systemwide.

And the cost of tape and manpower, even at inflated ATU 689 rates, to cover up/scrape off all the SEU's inside the station, and maybe every Green Line stripmap, has to be a fraction of that.

And the "do nothing option", which in this case has no drawbacks (since SEU doesn't exist anymore, I doubt anyone is going to try finding it, some people might be puzzled by the station suffix but whatever), is even less than that and more aesthetically pleasing in some ways. 

I think they should get rid of 7th Street on the MVS name, I never understood why it was there in the first place.

I think the DC government should pay up and indicate that Stadium-Armory is for RFK Stadium (i.e. RFK Stadium-DC Armory) and that Navy Yard is for Nationals Park (i.e. Navy Yard-Ballpark).  I also think that maybe, since the Verizon Center is now in the same hands as all of its tenants, perhaps a deal can be worked out between WMATA, the DC Government, and Monumental Sports to add in the word Arena to Gallery Place.

[Scrabbleship]

Unless someone wants to pay for new signage to get rid of SEU, might as well leave it.  New signs do cost money.

How much would it cost to just cover up all the SEU's inside the station? SEPTA did that when "Olde City" lost it's E at 2nd St on the MFL. Might be an easy/painless way to change things in the interim.

IIRC, it costs about $100,000 to change all the signage in a single station, and $400,000 to change maps and stripmaps systemwide.

And the cost of tape and manpower, even at inflated ATU 689 rates, to cover up/scrape off all the SEU's inside the station, and maybe every Green Line stripmap, has to be a fraction of that.

And the "do nothing option", which in this case has no drawbacks (since SEU doesn't exist anymore, I doubt anyone is going to try finding it, some people might be puzzled by the station suffix but whatever), is even less than that and more aesthetically pleasing in some ways. 

I think they should get rid of 7th Street on the MVS name, I never understood why it was there in the first place.

I think the DC government should pay up and indicate that Stadium-Armory is for RFK Stadium (i.e. RFK Stadium-DC Armory) and that Navy Yard is for Nationals Park (i.e. Navy Yard-Ballpark).  I also think that maybe, since the Verizon Center is now in the same hands as all of its tenants, perhaps a deal can be worked out between WMATA, the DC Government, and Monumental Sports to add in the word Arena to Gallery Place.

I think adding RFK Stadium to Stadium Armory at this point might be a gambit since who knows how much longer it will be standing? What if DC United ends up not getting a soccer-specific stadium and leaves town, leaving RFK near fallow? What if the threatened "Danny Dome" to replace RFK does get built? Why change the name now when it may need to be changed again down the road?

I support Ballpark being added to Navy Yard and am still surprised it wasn't done from the get-go. I understand naming rights conflicts and all and possibly wanting to hit up the buyer of the park for money, but given the state of the economy I doubt it'll happen anytime soon if ever even.

I support swapping Chinatown for Arena at Gallery Place. Chinatown is practically Chinablock at this point outside of the BID everyone knows this. A lot more people are getting off for Verizon Center than for Chinablock. I still wonder why a deal wasn't made for that when then-MCI Center was opened and everyone was under the WS&E banner.

[WMATAGMOAGH]

I never supported swapping out Chinatown for Arena, I think it should be an addition.  I actually think Chinatown is a more descriptive name than Gallery Place, especially for people who don't know the "etymology" behind the name.