RideOn's Orion Vs - New Transmissions???

Started by TransitGuru1981X, February 16, 2010, 02:07:24 AM

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TransitGuru1981X

Hi,

Is it true that Montgomery County RideOn is replacing some (if not all) of the Voith transmissions with Allison B-400R WTEC-IVs on some of their Orion Vs?

Delonta (Annex4421) wisecracked about this; he claims to have rode on an O5 35' with a new Allison B-400R WTEC-IV transmission (as opposed to the Voith D863 that was the original transmission).

A recap of their Orion Vs:
5546-5547 - 1993, 05.503 (35' x 8'), Detroit Diesel 6V-92TA DDEC to Allison HTB-748 ATEC (#5547 was scrapped after a fire around 2005)
5550-5566 - 1996, 05.503 (35' x 8'), Cummins M11E Plus to Voith D863.2
5567-5569 - 1996, 05.503 (35' x 8'), CNG, Cummins L10G Alpha to ZF Ecomat 5HP-590
5572-5579 - 1998, 05.503 (35' x 8'), Cummins M11E Plus to Voith D863.3
5704-5725 - 1999, 05.501 (40' x 8.5'), Detroit Diesel Series 50 to Voith D863.3
5802-5821 - 1999-2000, 05.501 (40' x 8.5'), CNG, Detroit Diesel Series 50G to Voith D863.3
5580-5624 - 2001, 05.504 (35' x 8.5'), Detroit Diesel Series 50 EGR to Voith D863.3 (only 35' Orion Vs in the RO fleet with Series 50 engines; was the agency's largest order of buses at that time)

A total of 25 Orion Vs in the RO fleet use Cummins M11 engines (as opposed to the ISM that replaced it for 1999). The ISM itself was used for the last Gillig Phantoms the agency ever ordered, coupled to the Allison B-400R transmission.

~Ben



Scrabbleship

I thought that 5580-5624 are 102" wide buses. They sure feel wider than 5550-5579 for sure.

TransitGuru1981X

Quote from: Scrabbleship on February 16, 2010, 10:07:20 AM
I thought that 5580-5624 are 102" wide buses. They sure feel wider than 5550-5579 for sure.
Corrected that part of the entry.

~Ben

Tritransit Area

Hmm, I doubt that would be the case.  All of the Orion Vs are past or approaching "retirement age".  Besides, the worst problem with the later models isn't the transmission, but the DD50 engine with the EGR.
My favorite buses:
1989 SEPTA AN440: 19 years in service
1989 NJT Metro Bs: 21 years in service
1990 WMATA 93/9400 Flxes: 20 years in service!
1990-92 Ride-On Orion Is: 17-18 years in service!

Tell me again I have no taste in buses...

Annex4421

Yes I rode 5585 its has the Allison Transmission