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Started by Scrabbleship, February 05, 2010, 08:26:09 PM

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WayneNYC

I remember LILCO always seeming to have issues in their areas.  Although I grew up in bad neighborhoods, I guess in terms of power companies we were lucky to have Con Ed. 

BTW-You may already know that OPM has decided to keep to Federal offices closed again on Tuesday.  Thankfully, we usually follow the feds.

Today I drove to Tyson, College Park and Rockville.  As the media is saying... There's lot more work to be done.  Some roads are good.  Parts of I-270 were actually dry today, but there's still many roads with ice, snow and slush.  The bad part is that it's refreeze tonight and whatever else we have coming in this next storm.  Feels like I moved back to New York:-).

Perry

So, Jason, you blame Metro not running its buses because MDOT and VDOT can't clear the roadds? Interesting. 

Scrabbleship

Quote from: Perry on February 08, 2010, 10:01:18 PM
So, Jason, you blame Metro not running its buses because MDOT and VDOT can't clear the roadds? Interesting. 

Having been in the district today, I'd say DDOT is far worse than SHA in road clearing. SHA's at least gotten most roads down to the pavement. With DDOT it's just wishful thinking.

WMATAGMOAGH

So for this morning at least, until you all get hammered with the next round, Metrorail is fully open again aside from the Blue Line east of Stadium-Armory, where there are supposedly 3-6 foot high snow drifts.  Am I the only one puzzled by the fact the Orange Line is running out to New Carrollton, and the truncated Blue Line is presumably relaying at D&G Junction, and the Blue Line is underground from just beyond D&G to Addison Road, yet there is no Blue Line service to Addison Road? 

Scrabbleship

Quote from: WMATAGMOAGH on February 09, 2010, 07:11:45 AM
So for this morning at least, until you all get hammered with the next round, Metrorail is fully open again aside from the Blue Line east of Stadium-Armory, where there are supposedly 3-6 foot high snow drifts.  Am I the only one puzzled by the fact the Orange Line is running out to New Carrollton, and the truncated Blue Line is presumably relaying at D&G Junction, and the Blue Line is underground from just beyond D&G to Addison Road, yet there is no Blue Line service to Addison Road? 

MAJOR snow drifts in the area between Addison Road and Largo. Makes me wonder if it's possible to still relay trains at Addison Road since the Blue between Stadium Armory and Addison Road is mostly underground.

WMATAGMOAGH

Quote from: Scrabbleship on February 09, 2010, 08:20:08 AM
Quote from: WMATAGMOAGH on February 09, 2010, 07:11:45 AM
So for this morning at least, until you all get hammered with the next round, Metrorail is fully open again aside from the Blue Line east of Stadium-Armory, where there are supposedly 3-6 foot high snow drifts.  Am I the only one puzzled by the fact the Orange Line is running out to New Carrollton, and the truncated Blue Line is presumably relaying at D&G Junction, and the Blue Line is underground from just beyond D&G to Addison Road, yet there is no Blue Line service to Addison Road? 

MAJOR snow drifts in the area between Addison Road and Largo. Makes me wonder if it's possible to still relay trains at Addison Road since the Blue between Stadium Armory and Addison Road is mostly underground.

You seem to miss my point.  The crossover at Addison is just west of the station.  Why can't the trains relay there?  Clearly, the line from Stadium-Armory to D&G is clear since the Orange Line is using it.

WayneNYC

Quote from: WMATAGMOAGH on February 09, 2010, 09:03:26 AM
  The crossover at Addison is just west of the station.  Why can't the trains relay there?  Clearly, the line from Stadium-Armory to D&G is clear since the Orange Line is using it.

Agreed.  Perhaps there's some weather-related issue at the junction and they're currently leaving it set for Orange line trains???

Scrabbleship

And we go back to emergency mode while SEPTA officials laugh and shake their heads at Metro. Who wants to take bets on when full service is resumed?


My bets: Gradual reopening on Thursday, full reopening on Friday for rail, bus service back by Saturday.

LandoverDivision

Here's my thing. WMATA is going to take a lot of heat one way or the other because DC people do nothing but complain. Being stuck at home is better than being stuck out in the middle of nowhere.
The REAL Landover Division fan!

BladensburgB2

METRO SHUTS DOWN AGAIN

HAM SANDWICH AND A FEW OTHER WORDS I WANNA SAY LOL ............. ;D
What kinda buses are going to pop up next  ...................

WMAveteran

On Facebook WMATA notes that it operated 300 buses as of 11:00 AM Tuesday!  Why would you brag about operating about 30% of your fleet?  One responder noted that she waited 2 1/2 hours for a J2 that never came.  The other responses also do not relate positive experiences. 

Tritransit Area

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Quote from: Scrabbleship on February 09, 2010, 06:55:07 PM
And we go back to emergency mode while SEPTA officials laugh and shake their heads at Metro. Who wants to take bets on when full service is resumed?


My bets: Gradual reopening on Thursday, full reopening on Friday for rail, bus service back by Saturday.

Gradual reopening on Thursday?  Based on the events since this past weekend, Metro trains won't operate in service in natural light until at least Friday.  However, I hope I'm wrong!

Interesting that you posted that blog post comparing SEPTA to WMATA.  Just want to clarify/correct some points in the article:

1) All SEPTA rapid transit lines have above ground portions, including the Broad Street Subway (which has a surface based yard too).  The Market-Frankford Subway-Elevated[/i] as well as the Broad Street Line ran before, during, and after the storm.  In fact, part of the new "blizzard" policy is to run the trains all night, instead of closing for the bus owl service.

2) Unfortunately, the rt 100, Norristown High Speed Line, was suspended rather early.  I'm actually quite disappointed with that, especially since it used to be a line that was reliable at just about any time. This reliability dipped significantly in recent years.  I think this has to do with SEPTA selling the snow fighting equipment that was used for this line...although I guess it was getting old.

3) The PATCO Lindenwold High Speed Line ran before, during, and after the storm.  Picture in this thread: http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=897058.  Of course, the storm wasn't finished yet at the time of this photograph.

4) All lines were up and running for normal Sunday service with a few delays, which is to be expected in inclement weather.

I'm glad that people are starting to stir, scratch their heads, and say "this isn't quite right".  I hope that things improve for future storms, and that this mentality of "well, nobody ever has to go anywhere, so it's okay to go on lock-down for a week" doesn't continue to rule.  After all, that type of stuff CRIPPLES the economy.  How ironic that this is happening in the place where the people trying to stimulate the economy live and work.

WMATA Bus Division, all the municipal service providers, and road crews need to have a serious talk once things get cleared up so that there can be better coordination.  Metrorail needs a staff meeting as well.  Things HAVE to improve - DC is not Florida!
My favorite buses:
1989 SEPTA AN440: 19 years in service
1989 NJT Metro Bs: 21 years in service
1990 WMATA 93/9400 Flxes: 20 years in service!
1990-92 Ride-On Orion Is: 17-18 years in service!

Tell me again I have no taste in buses...

79MetroExtraMD

It's just been a freak winter season so far that caught this entire region off guard. It's not wise to compare two different areas like NYC and DC. NYC can afford to have the equipment because they have a much more extensive system and has a larger budget than DC. Plus, they usually get much more brutal winter weather than here (lake effect snows). I think Metro might change up some things a bit to have some kind of equipment on hand, but that is subject to the budget and what they can afford to be fiscally conservative, but putting safety for their employees and riders outweighs having to run transit during a snow emergency. Most people are already off, the bulk of them being fed gov't employees. As it was said many times, people should heed caution and just not risk their lives in going somewhere if they are not essential personnel.
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Sand Box John

WMATAGMOAGH
So for this morning at least, until you all get hammered with the next round, Metrorail is fully open again aside from the Blue Line east of Stadium-Armory, where there are supposedly 3-6 foot high snow drifts.  Am I the only one puzzled by the fact the Orange Line is running out to New Carrollton, and the truncated Blue Line is presumably relaying at D&G Junction, and the Blue Line is underground from just beyond D&G to Addison Road, yet there is no Blue Line service to Addison Road?


I was wondering the same. I would hazard a guess the portal east of D&G Junction is where those snow drifts are.
John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.

BladensburgB2

HELLO,

DID ANYONE HEAR THAT METRO WILL BE SHUT DOWN TILL TUESDAY?????

I JUST GOT A CALL AND CANT GET ON THE WEBSITE
What kinda buses are going to pop up next  ...................