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60BRT's finally headed for the X2?

Started by Scrabbleship, April 23, 2009, 07:46:15 AM

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WMATAGMOAGH

Quote from: landoverdivision on June 18, 2009, 05:08:05 PM
Quote from: WayneNYC on June 18, 2009, 02:25:42 PM
Quote from: OrionFlyer on June 14, 2009, 05:16:58 PM
The B30 doesn't need 60fts. The suburban 6200's would be better.

Why not just keep the current Orion Vs there, especially since the 6200s would need to have luggage racks installed?

Because the B30 gets jam packed and the luggage racks took away 4 seats that could've been in that place. And we get tired of seeing the same buses. :)

Ever ride the 5A?  That has a low floor, suburban seating, no luggage racks, and lots of crowding.  I'd rather see the Orion Vs stay where they are, that arrangement seems to work fine.

Quote from: 79MetroExtraMD on June 18, 2009, 06:11:26 PM
Quote from: WayneNYC on June 18, 2009, 02:25:42 PM
Quote from: OrionFlyer on June 14, 2009, 05:16:58 PM
The B30 doesn't need 60fts. The suburban 6200's would be better.

Why not just keep the current Orion Vs there, especially since the 6200s would need to have luggage racks installed?

I'd love to see coach buses on those two airport routes (if WMATA even decides to go that option). IIRC, these lines don't interline with anything and the dwell times would still be about the same either with a regular bus or coach bus. As for the high back suburbans, the 2700s could use the luggage rack treatment since most of those buses were meant for the 5A.

If WMATA ordered a coach bus, you know it would be on every route aside from the 5A and B30.  I think it is much easier to keep the fleet standardized than to get coach buses to cover a few trips on two airport routes.  Also, I predict the 5A will be eliminated before the useful service life of such a coach ends if it were to be ordered now.

Tristan

Quote from: 79MetroExtraMD on June 18, 2009, 06:11:26 PM
Quote from: WayneNYC on June 18, 2009, 02:25:42 PM
Quote from: OrionFlyer on June 14, 2009, 05:16:58 PM
The B30 doesn't need 60fts. The suburban 6200's would be better.

Why not just keep the current Orion Vs there, especially since the 6200s would need to have luggage racks installed?

I'd love to see coach buses on those two airport routes (if WMATA even decides to go that option). IIRC, these lines don't interline with anything and the dwell times would still be about the same either with a regular bus or coach bus. As for the high back suburbans, the 2700s could use the luggage rack treatment since most of those buses were meant for the 5A.

I've...never heard that.  I thought the 5A was no more than a 4-bus operation.  Why would Metro order 30 buses (or even 16, by your logic) to cover 4 buses? That's one hell of a spare ratio.  Please cite your sources.

OrionFlyer

Huh?? Okay, I'm officially confused now. I thought those bars on the 2700's and 6206 - 6217 were luggage racks. You know those bars that those coach bus lights are attached to? I thought those were luggage racks. Back when the N22 was still operating I rode one of the 2700s and those bars actually look like luggage racks.  Somebody on here told me they was too.

Thats why I thought of the idea of the suburban 6200's on the B30.
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WMATAGMOAGH

They are, but I don't think a large suitcase would fit on those.

Tristan

I guess by luggage racks they mean the large, floor-to-ceiling racks next to the ADA bench.  I think, with a swinging, latching gate, the area above the front wheel well would serve that purpose.

NewFlyer9736BCT

Quote from: WMATAGMOAGH on June 18, 2009, 08:47:54 PM
They are, but I don't think a large suitcase would fit on those.

yeah plus it would be hard for some people to lift up some large and heavy bags to place them up there
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LandoverDivision

Seriously whoever said the NABI 60-BRTs weren't needed on the 79 was DEAD WRONG. Just about all of them were jam packed. Man the 60-BRTs seem perfect for the 79. Am I wrong?
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WMATAGMOAGH

Quote from: landoverdivision on June 25, 2009, 12:39:39 AM
Seriously whoever said the NABI 60-BRTs weren't needed on the 79 was DEAD WRONG. Just about all of them were jam packed. Man the 60-BRTs seem perfect for the 79. Am I wrong?

Are you basing that on observations from the past few days?  If so, these aren't normal ridership conditions, you can't base much of anything off this.

LandoverDivision

Quote from: WMATAGMOAGH on June 25, 2009, 01:10:03 AM
Quote from: landoverdivision on June 25, 2009, 12:39:39 AM
Seriously whoever said the NABI 60-BRTs weren't needed on the 79 was DEAD WRONG. Just about all of them were jam packed. Man the 60-BRTs seem perfect for the 79. Am I wrong?

Are you basing that on observations from the past few days?  If so, these aren't normal ridership conditions, you can't base much of anything off this.

Yesterday. It is normal though. The 79 maybe limited stop but it is still artic worthy IMO.
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NewFlyer9736BCT

Quote from: landoverdivision on June 25, 2009, 02:05:53 AM
Quote from: WMATAGMOAGH on June 25, 2009, 01:10:03 AM
Quote from: landoverdivision on June 25, 2009, 12:39:39 AM
Seriously whoever said the NABI 60-BRTs weren't needed on the 79 was DEAD WRONG. Just about all of them were jam packed. Man the 60-BRTs seem perfect for the 79. Am I wrong?

Are you basing that on observations from the past few days?  If so, these aren't normal ridership conditions, you can't base much of anything off this.

Yesterday. It is normal though. The 79 maybe limited stop but it is still artic worthy IMO.

You are right in the sense that Limited-Stop routes tend to get crowded at times (as seen with the 79, and J4 as well)...though I believe that lately, the 79 is getting more ridership because of recent events driving people to avoid taking the metrorail.

Although I do agree that the artics should stay on the 79 for now until they can be put on the X2 because even before all this happened, the 79 still gets a large amount of riders.
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