I was told by a shop man that Southern is getting all of the 6100's in replace of 4000's fleet. also the person who assign buses to the garages stated that southern will not get brt buses but in replace of the flxible fleet we will get 6100's/6200's. we have expanded our garage fleet from 128 to 140 we can accomadate the M6,V5,90,92lines. They are tryin to make out if we can get V7/8 lines but I dont think we can just wait and see.
I don't believe this.
Wow...if this is true then Annex will be the most boring division...having nothing but the 61/6200s (and maybe any remaining Flx Metro Bs...and 3900s)
at least it won't be like Virginia on the weekends...nothing but slow-ass Orion VII CNGs
Quote from: NewFlyer97BCT on September 18, 2009, 07:39:50 PM
Wow...if this is true then Annex will be the most boring division...having nothing but the 61/6200s (and maybe any remaining Flx Metro Bs...and 3900s)
at least it won't be like Virginia on the weekends...nothing but slow-ass Orion VII CNGs
True. and hey don't do that to us. We need them.
Annex isn't suitable for hybrids because of the height clearance of the battery compartment as well as the age and condition of the garage.
Plus our garage is outdated, hopefully we take care of the Clean Diseals
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 18, 2009, 08:05:25 PM
True. and hey don't do that to us. We need them.
don't do what?
Quote from: NewFlyer97BCT on September 18, 2009, 08:29:26 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 18, 2009, 08:05:25 PM
True. and hey don't do that to us. We need them.
don't do what?
Say its gonna be a boring division because its true LOL!!!. Just ask Bladensburg and the C40LF's or FMR and the Orion VII's although I like the 2600s above 2615.
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 18, 2009, 08:35:28 PM
Quote from: NewFlyer97BCT on September 18, 2009, 08:29:26 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 18, 2009, 08:05:25 PM
True. and hey don't do that to us. We need them.
don't do what?
Say its gonna be a boring division because its true LOL!!!. Just ask Bladensburg and the C40LF's or FMR and the Orion VII's although I like the 2600s above 2615.
yeah...the only thing is that Bladensburg has at least some diversity (they have some 2600s, 4052-4065, some 9300s, and some lower 4200s), plus, I like the C40LFs, they run nice and fast, and now that they're getting rehabbed and repainted in the new scheme, I love them more than ever now.
as for FMR...yeah they have some of the John Deere buses, but almost all of them run in special routes (2620, 2621, 2638-2664, 2666-2668 are PikeRide buses, 2669-2673 are 9S buses, 2674-2685 are REX buses, the 2700s are suburban express buses). The only John Deere buses that FMR has that isn't branded for any route is 2637 and 2665 (although 2665 is in the express scheme, it tends to show up on regular routes more, unlike back then when it was a PikeRide bus). And even though FMR has these two buses, it's like finding a needle in a haystack (for non-branded routes), the grand majority of them will be those slow Cummins buses.
if Annex were to be all D40LFR, it would be like FMR where there's no diversity except the suburban seating in the latter set, the only thing is that this would be better since the D40LFRs run much faster than those slowpoke 2500s, plus, some 3900s and 9300s might stick around anyways.
just my opinions about all this
Quote from: DE42LFA on September 18, 2009, 07:07:19 PM
I don't believe this.
Nor do I. If they become the sole home of the 6100/6200's and that happens after all the Flxibles are retired, what does Montgomery and Landover get in exchange?
Besides, there'd be a fleet hole if all the Flxibles were retired now. Might there be another order of LFA's for 2010?
Quote from: Scrabbleship on September 18, 2009, 10:54:34 PM
Quote from: DE42LFA on September 18, 2009, 07:07:19 PM
I don't believe this.
Nor do I. If they become the sole home of the 6100/6200's and that happens after all the Flxibles are retired, what does Montgomery and Landover get in exchange?
Besides, there'd be a fleet hole if all the Flxibles were retired now. Might there be another order of LFA's for 2010?
For Lanodover the LFA's replaces the 6100s I don't know about Mongomery so I agree with you.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! That would be awful news for me. What routes does Southern run, btw?
Wouldn't Montgomery also get LFA hybrids as well, though? I thought they were getting a portion of these buses.
Quote from: Tritransit Area on September 20, 2009, 04:32:28 AM
That would be awful news for me. What routes does Southern run, btw?
The 30's (not including the 31, 37), the A's (not including the A11, A12), C11, C12, C13, C14, D12, D13, D14, M2, M6, M8, M9, NH1, P17, P18, P19, V5, W2, W3, W4, W6, W8, W13, W14, W15. I think Annex also does the W19, but last I seen and heard, Royal does that route.
Quote from: OrionFlyer on September 20, 2009, 09:21:08 AM
Quote from: Tritransit Area on September 20, 2009, 04:32:28 AM
That would be awful news for me. What routes does Southern run, btw?
The 30's (not including the 31, 37), the A's (not including the A11, A12), C11, C12, C13, C14, D12, D13, D14, M2, M6, M8, M9, NH1, P17, P18, P19, V5, W2, W3, W4, W6, W8, W13, W14, W15. I think Annex also does the W19, but last I seen and heard, Royal does that route.
The 32, 36 Foggy Bottom Station, Also Annex shares th P17, P19, W13, W15, and W19 with Royal. Plus the V5 in the Morning with Bladensburg. Now their trying to get FULL time V5 and the 90, 92, and maybe the V7, V8, V9.
Quote from: metrodriver on September 18, 2009, 06:14:56 PM
I was told by a shop man that Southern is getting all of the 6100's in replace of 4000's fleet. also the person who assign buses to the garages stated that southern will not get brt buses but in replace of the flxible fleet we will get 6100's/6200's. we have expanded our garage fleet from 128 to 140 we can accomadate the M6,V5,90,92lines. They are tryin to make out if we can get V7/8 lines but I dont think we can just wait and see.
Annex took the M6 back in March FULL time. Plus if they get the 90,92 and V7 V8 wouldnt they have to give up some routes?
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 20, 2009, 09:27:44 AM
Quote from: metrodriver on September 18, 2009, 06:14:56 PM
I was told by a shop man that Southern is getting all of the 6100's in replace of 4000's fleet. also the person who assign buses to the garages stated that southern will not get brt buses but in replace of the flxible fleet we will get 6100's/6200's. we have expanded our garage fleet from 128 to 140 we can accomadate the M6,V5,90,92lines. They are tryin to make out if we can get V7/8 lines but I dont think we can just wait and see.
Annex took the M6 back in March FULL time. Plus if they get the 90,92 and V7 V8 wouldnt they have to give up some routes?
speaking of which...did Landover always have the H11-13? It seems more of an Annex line but I see nothing but Landover buses on there.
Quote from: NewFlyer97BCT on September 20, 2009, 10:45:16 AM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 20, 2009, 09:27:44 AM
Quote from: metrodriver on September 18, 2009, 06:14:56 PM
I was told by a shop man that Southern is getting all of the 6100's in replace of 4000's fleet. also the person who assign buses to the garages stated that southern will not get brt buses but in replace of the flxible fleet we will get 6100's/6200's. we have expanded our garage fleet from 128 to 140 we can accomadate the M6,V5,90,92lines. They are tryin to make out if we can get V7/8 lines but I dont think we can just wait and see.
Annex took the M6 back in March FULL time. Plus if they get the 90,92 and V7 V8 wouldnt they have to give up some routes?
speaking of which...did Landover always have the H11-13? It seems more of an Annex line but I see nothing but Landover buses on there.
Yeah and your right it does seem like an Annex route. Hmm they should look into taking that route.
Yeah the H11-13 and the K11-K13 should be Annex. Look how far the routes are from Landover and look how close they are to Annex. The C12, C14 and H11,H12, H13 routes start at Naylor Rd Station, which is closest to Annex than Landover. Then they go southeast of Naylor Rd Station. The C12, C14 are operated by Annex, but the H11, 12, 13 are operated by Landover. This has never made sense to me. The H's should be Annex.
The same goes for Montgomery operating the N's and L's. That doesn't make sense either. I was in DC Thursday and all I saw on the N2 was Montgomery buses.
Quote from: OrionFlyer on September 20, 2009, 11:31:36 AM
Yeah the H11-13 and the K11-K13 should be Annex. Look how far the routes are from Landover and look how close they are to Annex. The C12, C14 and H11,H12, H13 routes start at Naylor Rd Station, which is closest to Annex than Landover. Then they go southeast of Naylor Rd Station. The C12, C14 are operated by Annex, but the H11, 12, 13 are operated by Landover. This has never made sense to me. The H's should be Annex.
My question was: was the H11-13 always served by Landover or did Landover take it away from Annex since the Southeast closing? I know the K11-13 was always Landover, I just wanna know if it's the same for the H11-13. I wouldn't know since I haven't gone to Naylor Rd Station before all this happened.
Quote from: OrionFlyer on September 20, 2009, 11:31:36 AM
The same goes for Montgomery operating the N's and L's. That doesn't make sense either. I was in DC Thursday and all I saw on the N2 was Montgomery buses.
Well, the reason for that is because since Southeast closed, there has been lots of route division changes (with Bladensburg and Annex taking most of the SE routes, and Northern taking over the 90, 92, and 93). this caused a chain reaction where other divisions are affected as well, and in this case, Montgomery ended up taking the L and N lines from Western on weekdays (Western does them on weekends). This also explains why Royal does some W13, P17-19 runs, and why West Ox took over a lot of the Pentagon routes (replacing Royal), and why Western does the 60s (60, 62, 63, 64).
Speaking of which, is the 60 still around? Ever since the new 64 came into service, there's no point to keeping the 60.
Quote from: NewFlyer97BCT on September 20, 2009, 12:03:21 PM
Quote from: OrionFlyer on September 20, 2009, 11:31:36 AM
Yeah the H11-13 and the K11-K13 should be Annex. Look how far the routes are from Landover and look how close they are to Annex. The C12, C14 and H11,H12, H13 routes start at Naylor Rd Station, which is closest to Annex than Landover. Then they go southeast of Naylor Rd Station. The C12, C14 are operated by Annex, but the H11, 12, 13 are operated by Landover. This has never made sense to me. The H's should be Annex.
My question was: was the H11-13 always served by Landover or did Landover take it away from Annex since the Southeast closing? I know the K11-13 was always Landover, I just wanna know if it's the same for the H11-13. I wouldn't know since I haven't gone to Naylor Rd Station before all this happened.
Quote from: OrionFlyer on September 20, 2009, 11:31:36 AM
The same goes for Montgomery operating the N's and L's. That doesn't make sense either. I was in DC Thursday and all I saw on the N2 was Montgomery buses.
Well, the reason for that is because since Southeast closed, there has been lots of route division changes (with Bladensburg and Annex taking most of the SE routes, and Northern taking over the 90, 92, and 93). this caused a chain reaction where other divisions are affected as well, and in this case, Montgomery ended up taking the L and N lines from Western on weekdays (Western does them on weekends). This also explains why Royal does some W13, P17-19 runs, and why West Ox took over a lot of the Pentagon routes (replacing Royal), and why Western does the 60s (60, 62, 63, 64).
Speaking of which, is the 60 still around? Ever since the new 64 came into service, there's no point to keeping the 60.
Yes the 60 is sitll around. Plus Western runs 40fts on that route and it doesnt need them.
My question was: was the H11-13 always served by Landover or did Landover take it away from Annex since the Southeast closing? I know the K11-13 was always Landover, I just wanna know if it's the same for the H11-13. I wouldn't know since I haven't gone to Naylor Rd Station before all this happened.
Yes Landover ALWAYS served the H11-13 even before Southeastern closed, But Southeastern did the C14 on Weekends. Plus once I saw a Southeastern bus on a late H12 on a Friday in 2005. Weird huh?
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 20, 2009, 01:24:25 PM
Yes Landover ALWAYS served the H11-13 even before Southeastern closed, But Southeastern did the C14 on Weekends. Plus once I saw a Southeastern bus on a late H12 on a Friday in 2005. Weird huh?
know what else is weird? I once saw a Southeast bus on the P17 during AM rush. It was 2164, back in the day when it was a SE bus, with Aesys signs, and with knight riders, add that on the P17 and you get a nice photo op. Unfortunately, I didn't get my camera out on time.
6101-6143 ANNEX
6144-6178 LANDOVER
So all of these and MoDi's D40LFRs are all suppose to head to Annex? Dang.
Quote from: NewFlyer97BCT on September 20, 2009, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 20, 2009, 01:24:25 PM
Yes Landover ALWAYS served the H11-13 even before Southeastern closed, But Southeastern did the C14 on Weekends. Plus once I saw a Southeastern bus on a late H12 on a Friday in 2005. Weird huh?
know what else is weird? I once saw a Southeast bus on the P17 during AM rush. It was 2164, back in the day when it was a SE bus, with Aesys signs, and with knight riders, add that on the P17 and you get a nice photo op. Unfortunately, I didn't get my camera out on time.
That is weird, and I saw 6187 on the U2 once. And is WMATA willing to send ALL the D40LFR's to Annex, because if I know any better they are gonna get tagged up like crazy!!!!!
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 21, 2009, 01:43:17 PM
Quote from: LandoverDivision on September 21, 2009, 07:56:58 AM
6101-6143 ANNEX
6144-6178 LANDOVER
So all of these and MoDi's D40LFRs are all suppose to head to Annex? Dang.
6101-6106, 6179-6211 Montgomery
6107-6143, 6212-6217 Annex
6144-6178 Landover
That should clear up some confussion.
Annex is going to get D40LFRs with suburban high-back seating?
Quote from: Tritransit Area on September 23, 2009, 08:57:55 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 21, 2009, 01:43:17 PM
Quote from: LandoverDivision on September 21, 2009, 07:56:58 AM
6101-6143 ANNEX
6144-6178 LANDOVER
So all of these and MoDi's D40LFRs are all suppose to head to Annex? Dang.
6101-6106, 6179-6211 Montgomery
6107-6143, 6212-6217 Annex
6144-6178 Landover
That should clear up some confussion.
Annex is going to get D40LFRs with suburban high-back seating?
We already have some i think we'll get the rest.
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 09:01:06 PM
Quote from: Tritransit Area on September 23, 2009, 08:57:55 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 21, 2009, 01:43:17 PM
Quote from: LandoverDivision on September 21, 2009, 07:56:58 AM
6101-6143 ANNEX
6144-6178 LANDOVER
So all of these and MoDi's D40LFRs are all suppose to head to Annex? Dang.
6101-6106, 6179-6211 Montgomery
6107-6143, 6212-6217 Annex
6144-6178 Landover
That should clear up some confussion.
Annex is going to get D40LFRs with suburban high-back seating?
We already have some i think we'll get the rest.
If that happens then Montgomery would be left with no suburban seaters (except 9830-9835 but who knows how much longer they'll be around). I'm betting that either 6207-6211 stay at Montgomery, some of the Orion Vs get sent back to Montgomery or some DE42LFA's will show up with suburban seating.
Well I think the Suburban Orion V's get sent to landover because Montgomery is supposed to get Express LFAs as well.
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Well I think the Suburban Orion V's get sent to landover because Montgomery is supposed to get Express LFAs as well.
Why would Landover need any more suburban seaters than what they have now?
Quote from: WayneNYC on September 23, 2009, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Well I think the Suburban Orion V's get sent to landover because Montgomery is supposed to get Express LFAs as well.
Why would Landover need any more suburban seaters than what they have now?
They have Highway routes and Express routes thats why Annex has them now. Besides Montgomery used them on Local routes just like Annex does so whats the diffrence. PS Does NYC have a New Bus order for now?
Quote from: LandoverDivision on September 23, 2009, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: WayneNYC on September 23, 2009, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Well I think the Suburban Orion V's get sent to landover because Montgomery is supposed to get Express LFAs as well.
Why would Landover need any more suburban seaters than what they have now?
True we don't need any more here but we do need to get rid of those abomidable airport buses. Takes up too many seats.
Well I think its safe to say that Annex will be Boring in the future no matter what we get. And fix those Airport Buses sell them to BWI.
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 10:43:43 PM
Quote from: WayneNYC on September 23, 2009, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Well I think the Suburban Orion V's get sent to landover because Montgomery is supposed to get Express LFAs as well.
Why would Landover need any more suburban seaters than what they have now?
They have Highway routes and Express routes thats why Annex has them now. Besides Montgomery used them on Local routes just like Annex does so whats the diffrence. PS Does NYC have a New Bus order for now?
I understand the The Annex needs them, but Landover unless I'm missing something the only express route assigned to Landover is the B30. This is why I was questioning why would landover need any more suburban buses than the Orion Vs they already have. Yes, I would agree that Montgomery used to have far more suburban seaters than they needed. I always though it was odd when all of the D40LFR suburbans went to Montgomery. Yes, I also saw them doing local routes daily too.
NYCTA and MTAB are currently taking delivery of an 850 bus order of Orion 07 NG hybrids. They're a little over halfway. They start at 3800 and now they're up to the 4300s.
NYCTA is also getting 90 Designline hybrids. One unit #1302 is in service. There also an order for 90 NovaBUS LFA artics. Also, it's said that they will order some Prevost X3-45s for express service.
Here's some pics:
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/WayneJay/NYCTA/CSC_0133.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/WayneJay/NYCTA/CSC_0139.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/WayneJay/NYCTA/DSC00499.jpg)
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 10:43:43 PM
Quote from: WayneNYC on September 23, 2009, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Well I think the Suburban Orion V's get sent to landover because Montgomery is supposed to get Express LFAs as well.
Why would Landover need any more suburban seaters than what they have now?
They have Highway routes and Express routes thats why Annex has them now. Besides Montgomery used them on Local routes just like Annex does so whats the diffrence. PS Does NYC have a New Bus order for now?
Yesterday at Bethesda Station I saw nothing but suburban 6200s on the J7/J9 (except for a DE40LF). Didn't someone say that the latter 6450s/6460s would be suburban seaters? if so, then those will probably be at Montgomery
Quote from: WayneNYC on September 24, 2009, 12:40:40 AM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 10:43:43 PM
Quote from: WayneNYC on September 23, 2009, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Well I think the Suburban Orion V's get sent to landover because Montgomery is supposed to get Express LFAs as well.
Why would Landover need any more suburban seaters than what they have now?
They have Highway routes and Express routes thats why Annex has them now. Besides Montgomery used them on Local routes just like Annex does so whats the diffrence. PS Does NYC have a New Bus order for now?
I understand the The Annex needs them, but Landover unless I'm missing something the only express route assigned to Landover is the B30. This is why I was questioning why would landover need any more suburban buses than the Orion Vs they already have. Yes, I would agree that Montgomery used to have far more suburban seaters than they needed. I always though it was odd when all of the D40LFR suburbans went to Montgomery. Yes, I also saw them doing local routes daily too.
NYCTA and MTAB are currently taking delivery of an 850 bus order of Orion 07 NG hybrids. They're a little over halfway. They start at 3800 and now they're up to the 4300s.
NYCTA is also getting 90 Designline hybrids. One unit #1302 is in service. There also an order for 90 NovaBUS LFA artics. Also, it's said that they will order some Prevost X3-45s for express service.
Here's some pics:
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/WayneJay/NYCTA/CSC_0133.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/WayneJay/NYCTA/CSC_0139.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/WayneJay/NYCTA/DSC00499.jpg)
Thats alot any differnces in these such as Interior/Exterior
So let me try to get this all straight:
The Flxibles are all retired minus some Metro E's put into reserve.
Landover and Montgomery are going to hand over their D40LFR's to Annex.
What then replaces the retired Flxibles and the D40LFR's at Landover and Montgomery, since the combined number of both is a lot more than the 40 LFA's each garage is getting?
Also, if Annex is such a rough division, why aren't they getting Orion V's or even Orion VII's from Landover/Montgomery; something older that can take abuse?
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Thats alot any differnces in these such as Interior/Exterior
All will have the same transit (local service) interior. On the exterior the only difference is that the 3800 & 3900 series has different batteries from the rest.
One more thing if some Metro Es are put into reserve then they'll be moved around like the 93/9400s are now. Plus since the Southeastern Closing I bet alot of divisions are Jam packed so maybe they need breathing space since another bus order is supposed to be in for next year.
Quote from: 79MetroExtraMD on September 18, 2009, 08:13:26 PM
Annex isn't suitable for hybrids because of the height clearance of the battery compartment as well as the age and condition of the garage.
I'm not sure that's true I remember 1 year ago on my graduation day I was come out of shoppers and I saw some Orion VIIs go into the garage, did some routes, then later that day they I saw one that looked like it was getting worked on, they were 2 week lends. Then after that same episode 2 C40LF's went in side did some routes came back and was getting worked on. Maybe Annex had portable CNG pumps.
Quote from: LandoverDivision on September 23, 2009, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: WayneNYC on September 23, 2009, 10:41:12 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on September 23, 2009, 10:14:20 PM
Well I think the Suburban Orion V's get sent to landover because Montgomery is supposed to get Express LFAs as well.
Why would Landover need any more suburban seaters than what they have now?
True we don't need any more here but we do need to get rid of those abomidable airport buses. Takes up too many seats.
Lets see. They're airport buses for a reason. They need luggage racks for the large parcels that travelers have. Having some of the suburban 6200s would be best since they would be put to better use.
Also, who is "we"? Do you even work for Metro?
Quote from: 79MetroExtraMD on November 26, 2009, 12:07:08 PM
Having some of the suburban 6200s would be best since they would be put to better use.
I wish they would do this right now. But that probably won't happen until it's time for the Orion Vs to be retired. Probably not for another 6 years.
Quote from: OrionFlyer on November 26, 2009, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: 79MetroExtraMD on November 26, 2009, 12:07:08 PM
Having some of the suburban 6200s would be best since they would be put to better use.
I wish they would do this right now. But that probably won't happen until it's time for the Orion Vs to be retired. Probably not for another 6 years.
Never say never. It could happen. I mean he Orion Vs perform very well in most conditions and have stood up very well. Had they been mainly in local service on these rough streets, they'd be in worse condition than a highway bus.
branded buses don't have to be retired to be replaced...take a look at the old 38B buses and old Pike Ride buses and old REX buses, they are now normal-schemed Orion VIs in other divisions.
Besides, if they were replaced on B30 duty by the 6200s, they could always remove the luggage racks and even go back to normal seating if they wanted to, but who knows...
Quote from: NewFlyer97BCT on November 26, 2009, 01:37:04 PM
branded buses don't have to be retired to be replaced...take a look at the old 38B buses and old Pike Ride buses and old REX buses, they are now normal-schemed Orion VIs in other divisions.
I never seen the Pike Ride branded Orion VIs. Got pic of it?
not the best pic but it's my only one of a pike ride Orion VI, it's 2022 on the 38B at Rosslyn...this was one of the last Orion VIs remaining at FMR, it then moved to Landover.
(http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr183/gpbusgallery/WMATA/mb2022a.jpg)
Quote from: Scrabbleship on September 24, 2009, 12:30:57 PM
Also, if Annex is such a rough division, why aren't they getting Orion V's or even Orion VII's from Landover/Montgomery; something older that can take abuse?
Why do you say Annex is a rough division? They're buses look perfectly fine to me. Truly they could get any buses if they wanted to they did have CNGs for 2 weeks. Annex may be old, but they can still keep their buses decent.
A quick update from the last time:
6101-6148 (the highest I've seen so far in the 6140s )
6179-6185
6212-6217