With WMATA ready, willing and able to retire many of its remaining Flxible Metro Bs, Ds and Es (93/9400s, 97/9800s and 4000s respectively) as I type this, I would like to be kept track of what particular units in all series have been individually retired.
~Ben
the only ones i can think of are 9719 and 9726
I think 4050-4051 is also retired
According to Brandon (who assumes the YouTube screen name of "landoverdivision321"), several 9300s and many of the 35-foot 9400s are still in service after 19 years; actually out-performing all its newer kinfolk.
~Ben
They'll probably get orange crushed and maybe painted in the new schemes. But I highly doubt it
the 93/9400s would be legends
Ben some of the 9300s in service got their new LEDs from some of the retired Flx-Ds. i can estimate about.....25-30? Flx-Ds are retired and about 2 maybe 3 Flx-Es are retired.
What?! They retired Metro Ds and Es already? But yeah, it's kinda funny. All my favorites (SEPTA AN440s, NJT Metro Bs, and WMATA L10 Metro Bs, have had healthy lifespans of 18 years or more! They sure made me proud! *tear*
How hard is it to get an 93/9400 nowadays? I'd like to try again for another "final ride" one day soon.
Quote from: Tritransit Area on September 10, 2009, 04:13:43 PM
What?! They retired Metro Ds and Es already? But yeah, it's kinda funny. All my favorites (SEPTA AN440s, NJT Metro Bs, and WMATA L10 Metro Bs, have had healthy lifespans of 18 years or more! They sure made me proud! *tear*
How hard is it to get an 93/9400 nowadays? I'd like to try again for another "final ride" one day soon.
Well here at Landover Division territory, not hard to find at all especially at Cheverly and New Carrollton. And now a lot of 42LFAs are really starting to come in. But Landover has a crap load of 93/9400s so it wouldn't be that hard to find here.
We have alot at Annex also and our Metro E's still running strong however I think they should stay another year and get repainted and sent to random divisions like the 93/9400's. Or at least be used for special shuttle service.
Oh yeah how many Metro D's are still running at Landover?
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 07:57:06 AM
We have alot at Annex also and our Metro E's still running strong however I think they should stay another year and get repainted and sent to random divisions like the 93/9400's. Or at least be used for special shuttle service.
Oh yeah how many Metro D's are still running at Landover?
Maybe about half. I know 9701-9703, 9727, 9729, 9730-9731, 9740-9741, 9747-9750? is still going strong.
Awsome. Do you know if there are any 4040's retired because the highest metro e i see now is 4040
I saw 4048 but that was a couple of weeks back on the W4. I saw 4050 and 4054 at CET. i don't know about the 4040s.
Quote from: LandoverDivision on September 11, 2009, 08:10:38 AM
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 07:57:06 AM
We have alot at Annex also and our Metro E's still running strong however I think they should stay another year and get repainted and sent to random divisions like the 93/9400's. Or at least be used for special shuttle service.
Oh yeah how many Metro D's are still running at Landover?
Maybe about half. I know 9701-9703, 9727, 9729, 9730-9731, 9740-9741, 9747-9750? is still going strong.
Any 9800s gone yet?
~Ben
Actually 4054 is still at Bladensburg, and any of Northern's Metro D 's retired Yet? R.I.P. 4050
Quote from: TransitGuru1981X on September 11, 2009, 08:16:05 AM
Quote from: LandoverDivision on September 11, 2009, 08:10:38 AM
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 07:57:06 AM
We have alot at Annex also and our Metro E's still running strong however I think they should stay another year and get repainted and sent to random divisions like the 93/9400's. Or at least be used for special shuttle service.
Oh yeah how many Metro D's are still running at Landover?
Maybe about half. I know 9701-9703, 9727, 9729, 9730-9731, 9740-9741, 9747-9750? is still going strong.
Any 9800s gone yet?
~Ben
Unfortunatly yes. Now the 9800s I'm not sure which ones are retired but 9835 I know isn't. Along with 9823.
The 9800s too AWW MAN!! I was looking foward to seeing Some Metro D's in the southeast area Tartar Sauce!
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 08:29:32 AM
The 9800s too AWW MAN!! I was looking foward to seeing Some Metro D's in the southeast area Tartar Sauce!
Was that even going to happen? I doubt it.
Why Not? Look at how they treat southeast and Most of out Metro E's came from Montgomery and our 9600s went there back in 06
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 08:35:11 AM
Why Not? Look at how they treat southeast and Most of out Metro E's came from Montgomery and our 9600s went there back in 06
Well maybe but since they are going to retired soon, you wanna kinda think about that.
Well now it looks like the 42/4300s are taking the spot as the oldest buses now.Though I'd prefer 2100s but you may not like them. and YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS A DE37LFA JUST PARKED DOWN THE STREET!!!!! I'LL TRY TO GET THE NUMBER
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 08:42:50 AM
Well now it looks like the 42/4300s are taking the spot as the oldest buses now.Though I'd prefer 2100s but you may not like them. and YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS A DE37LFA JUST PARKED DOWN THE STREET!!!!! I'LL TRY TO GET THE NUMBER
I like the 2100s better than the 42/4300s. And the NABIs are going to take that spot then the Orion Vs. And please get that number LOL.
3752 or 62 That thing was fast and I got wet LOL and why is northern and mongomery NABIs at Bladensburg? perhaps the NABIs my live to see the new paint?
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 08:48:27 AM
3752 or 62 That thing was fast and I got wet LOL and why is northern and mongomery NABIs at Bladensburg? perhaps the NABIs my live to see the new paint?
May? They ARE going to. Anyways which NABIs are you talking about.
5202(maybe 5201) through 5208 5218-5221(maybe 5222)
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 08:51:33 AM
5202(maybe 5201) through 5208 5218-5221(maybe 5222)
Hmm I don't know why. That's new to me.
WMATA is a trip. anyway I posted a new garage roster topic you can answer if you want but otherwise disreguard
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 09:00:15 AM
WMATA is a trip. anyway I posted a new garage roster topic you can answer if you want but otherwise disreguard
I saw it but like someone said it's pointless to guess. I hope Landover gets some express LFAs though.
They should. It can be a 4 way split between Nortern Montgomery and Western
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 09:07:25 AM
They should. It can be a 4 way split between Nortern Montgomery and Western
Yup. Landover needs 'em badly. Annex took our regular suburban Orion Vs (the only 2 we had). Ugh we still got the airport ones with less seats in them. All of thm doesn't even end up on the B30. Saw one on the F14 yesterday.
Quote from: LandoverDivision on September 11, 2009, 09:15:30 AM
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 09:07:25 AM
They should. It can be a 4 way split between Nortern Montgomery and Western
Yup. Landover needs 'em badly. Annex took our regular suburban Orion Vs (the only 2 we had). Ugh we still got the airport ones with less seats in them. All of thm doesn't even end up on the B30. Saw one on the F14 yesterday.
actually 4388-4389 along with 4396-4398 came fron Royal. Royal took our 4400s. as for 4390-4395 there is no need for them to be airport buses now I would like to see 2700s on the B30 someday
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 09:19:15 AM
Quote from: LandoverDivision on September 11, 2009, 09:15:30 AM
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 09:07:25 AM
They should. It can be a 4 way split between Nortern Montgomery and Western
Yup. Landover needs 'em badly. Annex took our regular suburban Orion Vs (the only 2 we had). Ugh we still got the airport ones with less seats in them. All of thm doesn't even end up on the B30. Saw one on the F14 yesterday.
actually 4388-4389 along with 4396-4398 came fron Royal. Royal took our 4400s. as for 4390-4395 there is no need for them to be airport buses now I would like to see 2700s on the B30 someday
Me too but we would need a world-class miracle if we want Landover to be a CNG garage. Anyways, why give 2 Orion V subs to us if we was only going to get them for a short amount of time.
Well I 4400s should've came to Landover. Plus If maryland Considers letting WMATA contruct a CNG facility Landover will take it. I know it
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 09:25:07 AM
Well the 4400s should've came to Landover. Plus If maryland Considers letting WMATA contsruct a CNG facility Landover will take it. I know it
Unfortunatly, Gov Martin O Malley only wants hybrids in MD divisions. If Metro changes that, kudos to them but doubt that would ever happen.
Well you never know. But remember sometimes buses are borrowed so keep your fingers crossed because I saw a C40LF at new carrollton last Thursday Maybe Landover might convince him to do so but if he feels that way the DC should be CNG maryland Hybrid and VA everything Oh yeah Shoutouts to Landover drivers for letting me heard the engine on a DE42LFA WITHOUT a/c I love the Compressors But dang western always has th ac on and the drivers drive slow. Just for kicks what if landover got DE62LFA's (they already had NABIs a long time ago) or the Neoplans, Speaking of which Shouldn't They be gettin Rehabbed right now?
I saw a NABI 60-BRT on Annapolis/Landover Roads by Publick Playhouse in Cheverly. Then spotted an Orion VII not once but twice in the same week sitting at Landover. And then during the inauguration, Landover got some 60-BRTs to cover the B30. Awesome week that was. And rehabbed C40LFs keep appearing there for some odd reason.
NABI 60-BRT on the B30:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3srcxfJ7oZw&feature=related
5410 on the B30 My uncle was surprised Wmata have these He saids LA's sounds Quieter
Quote from: LandoverDivision on September 11, 2009, 08:19:13 AM
Quote from: TransitGuru1981X on September 11, 2009, 08:16:05 AM
Quote from: LandoverDivision on September 11, 2009, 08:10:38 AM
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 07:57:06 AM
We have alot at Annex also and our Metro E's still running strong however I think they should stay another year and get repainted and sent to random divisions like the 93/9400's. Or at least be used for special shuttle service.
Oh yeah how many Metro D's are still running at Landover?
Maybe about half. I know 9701-9703, 9727, 9729, 9730-9731, 9740-9741, 9747-9750? is still going strong.
Any 9800s gone yet?
~Ben
Unfortunatly yes. Now the 9800s I'm not sure which ones are retired but 9835 I know isn't. Along with 9823.
9809 is still running nice and strong. that bus, plus 9823, are my favorites. Not sure about 9823 but 9805 and 9809 are still in service.
I think 9808, 9810, 9813, 9821, 9826, and 9827 are still in service, maybe more, maybe less, idk
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 08:51:33 AM
5202(maybe 5201) through 5208 5218-5221(maybe 5222)
so Bladensburg now has Northern's 5200s? Northern had 5217-5222, just for reference.
Also, 5201 and 5216 have been MIA for a long time now, so who knows what they're up to
Well 5222 is still at Northen which I saw for the first time today and 4202 is there. Bladensburg also has some of Montgomery's 5200s Also.
Also Nothern still has Metro D's most of them went to CET
Quote from: NewFlyer97BCT on September 12, 2009, 12:38:26 PM
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 08:51:33 AM
5202(maybe 5201) through 5208 5218-5221(maybe 5222)
so Bladensburg now has Northern's 5200s? Northern had 5217-5222, just for reference.
Also, 5201 and 5216 have been MIA for a long time now, so who knows what they're up to
Those might be the 2 5200's that are dead and numberless at Montgomery.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on September 14, 2009, 11:04:50 AM
Quote from: NewFlyer97BCT on September 12, 2009, 12:38:26 PM
Quote from: annex4421 on September 11, 2009, 08:51:33 AM
5202(maybe 5201) through 5208 5218-5221(maybe 5222)
so Bladensburg now has Northern's 5200s? Northern had 5217-5222, just for reference.
Also, 5201 and 5216 have been MIA for a long time now, so who knows what they're up to
Those might be the 2 5200's that are dead and numberless at Montgomery.
Already looks like the NABI's are joining the retired Flexibles. Speaking of which anymore retired so far?
4046,4047,4048,4049,4050,4051 all are at CET and had went to Bladensburg
Quote from: Annex4421 on October 04, 2009, 07:44:48 PM
4046,4047,4048,4049,4050,4051 all are at CET and had went to Bladensburg
Anymore 9700s and 9800s? Some parts from these two fleets were used to rebuild the 9300s/9400s which are still in service.
~Ben
Quote from: TransitGuru1981X on October 04, 2009, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on October 04, 2009, 07:44:48 PM
4046,4047,4048,4049,4050,4051 all are at CET and had went to Bladensburg
Anymore 9700s and 9800s? Some parts from these two fleets were used to rebuild the 9300s/9400s which are still in service.
~Ben
Oh yeah 9755,9777,9762,9763,9781,9782,9489,9492 and 8704 was sitting beside 4379 at CET
Quote from: TransitGuru1981X on October 04, 2009, 07:51:57 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on October 04, 2009, 07:44:48 PM
4046,4047,4048,4049,4050,4051 all are at CET and had went to Bladensburg
Anymore 9700s and 9800s? Some parts from these two fleets were used to rebuild the 9300s/9400s which are still in service.
~Ben
No, I doubt went like that. Yes, some of the 93/9400 series Metro-Bs got the destination signs (which I think is a good idea), but I doubt they got any other parts from the Metro-D and Es. Perhaps they may have gotten parts from some of those Metro-Bs that were sent to NIMCO, but I'm sure that's the extent of it. Many of those buses were retired (with some being put into storage) when the Orion VII, D40LFR and DE40LF/R came along.
Anyone have the odd feeling that all the Metro D's will be gone before they start retiring the Metro B's?
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 05, 2009, 12:11:44 PM
Anyone have the odd feeling that all the Metro D's will be gone before they start retiring the Metro B's?
Yes I have that feeling, and the sad thing is the Metro Es will be right behind the retiring Metro Ds.
Quote from: Annex4421 on October 05, 2009, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 05, 2009, 12:11:44 PM
Anyone have the odd feeling that all the Metro D's will be gone before they start retiring the Metro B's?
Yes I have that feeling, and the sad thing is the Metro Es will be right behind the retiring Metro Ds.
What is keeping the Metro B's going while younger buses get retired? Are they the new Fishbowls for the fleet, totally unretireable until pretty much they can't run any further? Or is this typical WMATA incompetence?
I'd keep the E's and retire the B's. The B's can't last much longer...
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 05, 2009, 02:55:08 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on October 05, 2009, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 05, 2009, 12:11:44 PM
Anyone have the odd feeling that all the Metro D's will be gone before they start retiring the Metro B's?
Yes I have that feeling, and the sad thing is the Metro Es will be right behind the retiring Metro Ds.
What is keeping the Metro B's going while younger buses get retired? Are the new Fishbowls for the fleet, totally unretireable until pretty much they can't run any further? Or is this typical WMATA incompetence?
I'd keep the E's and retire the B's. The B's can't last much longer...
The fishbowls are in the historic fleet, and I agree keep the Metro Es.
Quote from: Annex4421 on October 05, 2009, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 05, 2009, 02:55:08 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on October 05, 2009, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 05, 2009, 12:11:44 PM
Anyone have the odd feeling that all the Metro D's will be gone before they start retiring the Metro B's?
Yes I have that feeling, and the sad thing is the Metro Es will be right behind the retiring Metro Ds.
What is keeping the Metro B's going while younger buses get retired? Are the new Fishbowls for the fleet, totally unretireable until pretty much they can't run any further? Or is this typical WMATA incompetence?
I'd keep the E's and retire the B's. The B's can't last much longer...
The fishbowls are in the historic fleet, and I agree keep the Metro Es.
I meant to say are
they the new Fishbowls of the fleet given their amazing longevity.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 05, 2009, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on October 05, 2009, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 05, 2009, 02:55:08 PM
Quote from: Annex4421 on October 05, 2009, 01:49:14 PM
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 05, 2009, 12:11:44 PM
Anyone have the odd feeling that all the Metro D's will be gone before they start retiring the Metro B's?
Yes I have that feeling, and the sad thing is the Metro Es will be right behind the retiring Metro Ds.
What is keeping the Metro B's going while younger buses get retired? Are the new Fishbowls for the fleet, totally unretireable until pretty much they can't run any further? Or is this typical WMATA incompetence?
I'd keep the E's and retire the B's. The B's can't last much longer...
The fishbowls are in the historic fleet, and I agree keep the Metro Es.
I meant to say are they the new Fishbowls of the fleet given their amazing longevity.
Yes they are.
You guys are forgetting that WMATA had a few hundred Metro-Bs. Most were retired and many of those you're seeing today were in storage. The Metro-Ds have lived a long hard life and I'm not at all suprised that they're going now. With the exception of a few being at Four Mile for some time, most of them spent most of their years doing hard work at Northern, Montgomery and Landover.
Were the 35fts in storage too?
Quote from: OrionFlyer on October 06, 2009, 10:38:07 AM
Were the 35fts in storage too?
It's possible, but I'm not sure. I rarely saw them as they spent their entire time (until recently) in NaVA and I live in Maryland. Then there were also a few of them that were leased to PG The Bus a couple of years ago.
Quote from: WayneNYC on October 05, 2009, 10:53:38 PM
You guys are forgetting that WMATA had a few hundred Metro-Bs. Most were retired and many of those you're seeing today were in storage. The Metro-Ds have lived a long hard life and I'm not at all suprised that they're going now. With the exception of a few being at Four Mile for some time, most of them spent most of their years doing hard work at Northern, Montgomery and Landover.
And the B's in question have led an easy life? Wasn't the point of the LFA order to replace the B's and D's and move the E's into contingency, not to retire the D's and E's and keep the B's going.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 06, 2009, 01:09:36 PM
Quote from: WayneNYC on October 05, 2009, 10:53:38 PM
You guys are forgetting that WMATA had a few hundred Metro-Bs. Most were retired and many of those you're seeing today were in storage. The Metro-Ds have lived a long hard life and I'm not at all suprised that they're going now. With the exception of a few being at Four Mile for some time, most of them spent most of their years doing hard work at Northern, Montgomery and Landover.
And the B's in question have led an easy life? Wasn't the point of the LFA order to replace the B's and D's and move the E's into contingency, not to retire the D's and E's and keep the B's going.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 06, 2009, 01:09:36 PM
Quote from: WayneNYC on October 05, 2009, 10:53:38 PM
You guys are forgetting that WMATA had a few hundred Metro-Bs. Most were retired and many of those you're seeing today were in storage. The Metro-Ds have lived a long hard life and I'm not at all suprised that they're going now. With the exception of a few being at Four Mile for some time, most of them spent most of their years doing hard work at Northern, Montgomery and Landover.
And the B's in question have led an easy life? Wasn't the point of the LFA order to replace the B's and D's and move the E's into contingency, not to retire the D's and E's and keep the B's going.
No, I'm not saying the B's led an easy life, although those 35-footers did. I'm saying that it's understandable that some Ds, NABIs (and even Es) are going first. When you compare any of these three... for most of their time in service, they've largely been at divisions getting heavy usage. Again, not that the B's didn't work hard, but some did have the benefit of storage. Not to mention in recent years a number of them spent a significant amout of time at divisions like The Annex when it was a Mon-Fri operation and Royal and/or doing peak service.
The Ds have been nothing less than seroius workhorses. Northern has always had a bunch of them. Same for Montgomery and landover worked them out quite a bit too.
The Es have worked quite hard over the years mainly for Montgomery, Western, Southeastern and now the Annex as a 7-day operation.
The NABIs: Agan - they worked long and hard at the hardest divisions. Luckily for them WMATA usually let them stay in the house on Sundays.
Also - There's probably like 50 or so Metro-Bs around. Remember, WMATA had a few hundred of them. So, IMO, having a small amount of them around doesn't quite they've "outlasted" the others buses without there being an asterik in place.
I see what you mean, but the Bs are 3 to 4 years older than both the Ds and especially the Es (and NABIs!). Did they get a rehab right before going into storage? Otherwise, I'd think the wear and tear would just about average out.
Not that I'm complaining that they are still on the street, by the way.
Ok it seems just like ALL the Metro D's are retired and the Metro Es numbered 4018, 4022, 4032, 4039, 4040, 4046-4051 are sitting at CET possibly waiting retirement or getting stored.
I saw Metro-Ds on the road on Friday - what makes you say they are all retired?
Quote from: Tristan on November 02, 2009, 12:12:06 PM
I saw Metro-Ds on the road on Friday - what makes you say they are all retired?
I meant to say just about all of them are retired, I rarely see them since I live on Flx E territory
Quote from: Tristan on November 02, 2009, 12:12:06 PM
I saw Metro-Ds on the road on Friday - what makes you say they are all retired?
Tristan,
I'd suppose those that you saw on that day were the 9700 series, if not any of the 9800s.
~Ben
I havent seen any 9700's in a long time then i passed by CET on the train today and i saw a crap load of them sitting there so i think that we might not be seeing em anytime soon
Quote from: DE42LFA on November 02, 2009, 07:42:38 PM
I havent seen any 9700's in a long time then i passed by CET on the train today and i saw a crap load of them sitting there so i think that we might not be seeing em anytime soon
Plus someone mention some 9800s retired at Montgomery.
Quote from: Annex4421 on October 30, 2009, 01:54:42 PM
Ok it seems just like ALL the Metro D's are retired and the Metro Es numbered 4018, 4022, 4032, 4039, 4040, 4046-4051 are sitting at CET possibly waiting retirement or getting stored.
EGADS man! What's going on down there?! I have yet to have my final ride on the Metro Es, wasn't planning to say bye bye to ALL of the Metro Ds, and surely didn't think I'd have a second chance of a final ride on my favorite Metro Bs!
I think I may stop by this Thanksgiving! :)
Quote from: TransitGuru1981X on November 02, 2009, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: Tristan on November 02, 2009, 12:12:06 PM
I saw Metro-Ds on the road on Friday - what makes you say they are all retired?
Tristan,
I'd suppose those that you saw on that day were the 9700 series, if not any of the 9800s.
~Ben
I saw 9821 that day and decided not to ride it because I needed an Ikarus recording more than a DD50 Metro-D recording (which I have of 9825). Bad move, huh?
Quote from: Tritransit Area on November 03, 2009, 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: Annex4421 on October 30, 2009, 01:54:42 PM
Ok it seems just like ALL the Metro D's are retired and the Metro Es numbered 4018, 4022, 4032, 4039, 4040, 4046-4051 are sitting at CET possibly waiting retirement or getting stored.
EGADS man! What's going on down there?! I have yet to have my final ride on the Metro Es, wasn't planning to say bye bye to ALL of the Metro Ds, and surely didn't think I'd have a second chance of a final ride on my favorite Metro Bs!
I think I may stop by this Thanksgiving! :)
Well most of the Metro D's are retired but as Tristan said there ar still more in sevice as well as the B's and E's so if you make it here by thanksgiving you'll be in luck.
Where are the E's hanging out nowadays? Are they still at Royal/NoVa?
Quote from: Tritransit Area on November 04, 2009, 07:36:19 PM
Where are the E's hanging out nowadays? Are they still at Royal/NoVa?
The are at the Annex Division and run in southeast DC and Montgomery Division in Montgomery County. and the Blade has some too.
Quote from: Annex4421 on November 04, 2009, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: Tritransit Area on November 04, 2009, 07:36:19 PM
Where are the E's hanging out nowadays? Are they still at Royal/NoVa?
The are at the Annex Division and run in southeast DC and Montgomery Division in Montgomery County. and the Blade has some too.
Annex has 4001-4051
Bladensburg has 4052-4065
Montgomery has 4066-4104
it's easiest to find them on Annex and Montgomery routes, but do remember that there are some that are retired so these numbers may be less.
Quote from: NewFlyer97BCT on November 05, 2009, 12:23:52 AM
Quote from: Annex4421 on November 04, 2009, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: Tritransit Area on November 04, 2009, 07:36:19 PM
Where are the E's hanging out nowadays? Are they still at Royal/NoVa?
The are at the Annex Division and run in southeast DC and Montgomery Division in Montgomery County. and the Blade has some too.
Annex has 4001-4051
Bladensburg has 4052-4065
Montgomery has 4066-4104
it's easiest to find them on Annex and Montgomery routes, but do remember that there are some that are retired so these numbers may be less.
George Annex let go some E's 4018, 4020, 4022, 4032, 4039, 4040, 4046-4051 is now at CET.
4070, 4074, 4089, 4095, 4104, 9396, 9823, and 9830 are still in service, I saw them all in service today
Is 9318 still running?
Am I led to believe that all 18 of the Cummins M11-powered 9800s (#9801-9818) are retired?
~Ben
Are there still any 35ft Flxibles in service?
Quote from: OrionFlyer on November 16, 2009, 10:17:44 AM
Are there still any 35ft Flxibles in service?
As far as I know, none of those are, unless sometime one or more of the new DE37LFAs is out of service for major repairs.
~Ben
Quote from: OrionFlyer on November 16, 2009, 10:17:44 AM
Are there still any 35ft Flxibles in service?
Yes. The remaining 35 footer Metro-Bs are at Landover.
Quote from: WayneNYC on November 16, 2009, 12:13:40 PM
Quote from: OrionFlyer on November 16, 2009, 10:17:44 AM
Are there still any 35ft Flxibles in service?
Yes. The remaining 35 footer Metro-Bs are at Landover.
And some of them are still in the "Post Office" scheme, right?
Quote from: Tritransit Area on November 15, 2009, 10:46:50 PM
Is 9318 still running?
I think so I last saw it leaving the Bladensburg Division.
Quote from: Annex4421 on November 16, 2009, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Tritransit Area on November 15, 2009, 10:46:50 PM
Is 9318 still running?
I think so I last saw it leaving the Bladensburg Division.
Yay! That's the last WMATA Flx B that I rode, on that good old 1A...
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/Bastranz/DC%20Area%20Transit/WMATA/Metrobus/Flxible/Metro%20B/WMATA9318-BallstonSta-11-11-08.jpg)
If 9489 is still rolling, it's likely in the old scheme!
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Tragicly 9489 and 9492 are retired.
I saw 9481 on the F6 today so they are still around...
9488 was on the F12 I know they're still in service. 9481 keeps being on the A12 for some reason.
So as of now all the 9700s are officially retired?
Quote from: OrionFlyer on December 28, 2009, 09:56:19 PM
So as of now all the 9700s are officially retired?
Yeah they have been retired for some time now. I also remeber m last ride on one to but i didnt pay no mind. 9701 was the last 9700 i saw in service. Pass by CET on the orange line and you will see them. And a couple at Landover.
My word! I can't believe they are gone :(. My last ride on one was quite a while ago, on the F4/6, I believe.
Another bus that I remember coming in brand new, and now...has been retired! I can still remember hearing them outside of the apartment window on University Blvd as a small child, loving that hum "fan sound" they made as they cruised on by, running on the C2/4.
I still remember my very first ride on a Metro D, taking one down to PG Plaza on the C2. How excited I was that this bus had air conditioning like SEPTA (rooftop a/c - I didn't realize that buses had rear a/c back then, even with windows that opened on the bus.) I remember how disappointed I was when I didn't hear the hum (guess the fans weren't on).
I remember those DUAL EXHAUST PIPES that were on all of them!
Yeah, they weren't well liked by the DC Crew, but I shall miss them and keep them in my memories.
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I'm stoked, though, that my favorite Metro Bs (the ones that everyone seems to hate) are still kicking, though! :)
I don't know if anyone touched on this...but why were the Ds retired in lieu of the Bs? Were there maintenance issues or some other reason?
Wait, let me clarify that there are still Metro Ds running. They are in the 9800s, and feature the ISM or DD50 hooked up to the Voith transmission.
The word is that the Metro Ds are getting retired before some of the Bs because the Bs that are currently in service were in storage for a few years. Therefore, they are considered to be in somewhat better shape than the Metro Ds that have been running without a break.
Quote from: Tritransit Area on December 29, 2009, 07:36:58 PM
Wait, let me clarify that there are still Metro Ds running. They are in the 9800s, and feature the ISM or DD50 hooked up to the Voith transmission.
The word is that the Metro Ds are getting retired before some of the Bs because the Bs that are currently in service were in storage for a few years. Therefore, they are considered to be in somewhat better shape than the Metro Ds that have been running without a break.
Actually, the first 18 of the 9800s (#9801-9818, with the Cummins M11E engine) are retired; only the DD50-powered examples (#9819-9835) remain.
~Ben
Which Flxibles had the suburban seats and the seats like the ones on the Orion V/VIs?
Quote from: OrionFlyer on December 29, 2009, 09:07:41 PM
Which Flxibles had the suburban seats and the seats like the ones on the Orion V/VIs?
9830-9835 have suburban seats the same ones 9618-9620 had and the Orion VI's don't have suburban seats.
Quote from: AnnexD40LFR on December 29, 2009, 09:40:56 PM
Quote from: OrionFlyer on December 29, 2009, 09:07:41 PM
Which Flxibles had the suburban seats and the seats like the ones on the Orion V/VIs?
9830-9835 have suburban seats the same ones 9618-9620 had and the Orion VI's don't have suburban seats.
The 4000/4100's i rode in Montgomery had those seats.
Quote from: DE40LFR on December 29, 2009, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: AnnexD40LFR on December 29, 2009, 09:40:56 PM
Quote from: OrionFlyer on December 29, 2009, 09:07:41 PM
Which Flxibles had the suburban seats and the seats like the ones on the Orion V/VIs?
9830-9835 have suburban seats the same ones 9618-9620 had and the Orion VI's don't have suburban seats.
The 4000/4100's i rode in Montgomery had those seats.
4051-4104 (we call them the soft seaters) have seating like those on the NABI 436, Orion V, and Orion VI.
4001-4050 have the thin-padded seating.
Ah HA! Thanks very much for the clarification, Wayne. Last time I rode a Metro E, I was confused by the soft "Orion V style seating", because I remembered them having the "old school" thin padded seats.
I guess the higher numbered ones primarily spent their time in NoVA, right?
They were all over. Montgomery had some in the lower 4090's, Western had the 4050's through 4070's. NoVA had 4100 through 4104 I believe.
Many of those Metro E's spent some time in Atlanta for the Olympics. I remember 4050 specifically because when it returned, it had ads for the Olympics throughout the interior.
Quote from: WayneNYC on December 29, 2009, 10:09:35 PM
Quote from: DE40LFR on December 29, 2009, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: AnnexD40LFR on December 29, 2009, 09:40:56 PM
Quote from: OrionFlyer on December 29, 2009, 09:07:41 PM
Which Flxibles had the suburban seats and the seats like the ones on the Orion V/VIs?
9830-9835 have suburban seats the same ones 9618-9620 had and the Orion VI's don't have suburban seats.
The 4000/4100's i rode in Montgomery had those seats.
4051-4104 (we call them the soft seaters) have seating like those on the NABI 436, Orion V, and Orion VI.
4001-4050 have the thin-padded seating.
Were some portion of the first half of the 4000's at Western about 5 years ago?
Quote from: WayneNYC on December 29, 2009, 10:09:35 PM
Quote from: DE40LFR on December 29, 2009, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: AnnexD40LFR on December 29, 2009, 09:40:56 PM
Quote from: OrionFlyer on December 29, 2009, 09:07:41 PM
Which Flxibles had the suburban seats and the seats like the ones on the Orion V/VIs?
9830-9835 have suburban seats the same ones 9618-9620 had and the Orion VI's don't have suburban seats.
The 4000/4100's i rode in Montgomery had those seats.
4051-4104 (we call them the soft seaters) have seating like those on the NABI 436, Orion V, and Orion VI.
4001-4050 have the thin-padded seating.
Thanks. I was confused which Flxibles had those. I hope next time I'm down there I can get a ride on one of the suburban Flxs.
I rode past Montgomery Division the other day and saw 4066, and 4069 without signs and on 4066 looked like the numbers were scratched off on the side
I knew the day would come when the newest WMATA Flxibles would be sans numbers and sitting in yards with parts missing. :'( But it really must say a lot about which ones were the better buses when there's a small handful of 93/9400s running around and Ds and Es are getting parted out for them.
Hopefully I can ride at least one when I come up to DC in March. I don't care when it was built as long as it's a Flxible....
Quote from: Flxible on January 11, 2010, 03:47:31 PM
I knew the day would come when the newest WMATA Flxibles would be sans numbers and sitting in yards with parts missing. :'( But it really must say a lot about which ones were the better buses when there's a small handful of 93/9400s running around and Ds and Es are getting parted out for them.
That always seems to happen with any large bus fleet - there are always a few hardy survivors which keep running long past the point they should have died.
Also, the E's are now going on 15 years old, so it's to be expected that some of them are now being removed from service.
So what's this I hear that all of the 9700s are now retired?
Quote from: Flxible on February 08, 2010, 02:56:40 AM
So what's this I hear that all of the 9700s are now retired?
Yup - Looks like they're all gone. However, the Metro-D era hasn't quite ended yet. There are still plenty of the 9800s operating at Montgomery Division.
Are the lower 9800s with the M11s still running?
Quote from: Tritransit Area on February 08, 2010, 12:50:36 PM
Are the lower 9800s with the M11s still running?
Nope. Im sorry to say but the only Flx D's that run now have a DD50 engines.