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Title: Montreal....All electric by 2025???
Post by: mrpete on June 06, 2010, 08:36:21 PM
http://www.montrealgazette.com/fleet+fully...9065/story.html (http://www.montrealgazette.com/fleet+fully+electric+2025/3059065/story.html)                                                                           


A posting on the Canadian Public Transit Discussion Board (CPTDB)  indicates that the Quebec TA consortium will soon sign a contract with  Nova for several hundred hybrids: standards and artics. Montreal alone  will account for 316 of the order.
Title: Re: Montreal....All electric by 2025???
Post by: 79MetroExtraMD on June 06, 2010, 08:39:12 PM
Quote from: mrpete on June 06, 2010, 08:36:21 PM
http://www.montrealgazette.com/fleet+fully...9065/story.html (http://www.montrealgazette.com/fleet+fully+electric+2025/3059065/story.html)                                                                           


A posting on the Canadian Public Transit Discussion Board (CPTDB)  indicates that the Quebec TA consortium will soon sign a contract with  Nova for several hundred hybrids: standards and artics. Montreal alone  will account for 316 of the order.
Doesn't surprise me since the NovaBus plant is right near Montreal. They've been strictly Novabus since 1993.
Title: Re: Montreal....All electric by 2025???
Post by: WayneNYC on June 06, 2010, 09:57:16 PM
Quote from: 79MetroExtraMD on June 06, 2010, 08:39:12 PM
Quote from: mrpete on June 06, 2010, 08:36:21 PM
http://www.montrealgazette.com/fleet+fully...9065/story.html (http://www.montrealgazette.com/fleet+fully+electric+2025/3059065/story.html)                                                  
Quote from: 79MetroExtraMD on June 06, 2010, 08:39:12 PM
Quote from: mrpete on June 06, 2010, 08:36:21 PM
http://www.montrealgazette.com/fleet+fully...9065/story.html (http://www.montrealgazette.com/fleet+fully+electric+2025/3059065/story.html)

                            

A posting on the Canadian Public Transit Discussion Board (CPTDB)  indicates that the Quebec TA consortium will soon sign a contract with  Nova for several hundred hybrids: standards and artics. Montreal alone  will account for 316 of the order.
Doesn't surprise me since the NovaBus plant is right near Montreal. They've been strictly Novabus since 1993.

                                                        


A posting on the Canadian Public Transit Discussion Board (CPTDB)  indicates that the Quebec TA consortium will soon sign a contract with  Nova for several hundred hybrids: standards and artics. Montreal alone  will account for 316 of the order.
Doesn't surprise me since the NovaBus plant is right near Montreal. They've been strictly Novabus since 1993.

Maybe they're preparing now.  I saw this one hybrid unit when we visited Montreal last year.

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/WayneJay/STM/DSC_0239.jpg)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/WayneJay/STM/DSC_0240.jpg)     
Title: Re: Montreal....All electric by 2025???
Post by: mrpete on June 07, 2010, 05:32:59 PM
From my perspective this is a seriously pie-in-the-sky delusion. Unless there is an order of magnitude development in battery technology this idea is going nowhere. Not to mention the unspoken electrical grid system infrastructure expansion/upgrade that will be required even if the battery technology, assuming it is reliable, stable and affordable, actually becomes available.

Oh, and what happens to all the hybrids they're acquiring between now and 2017??
Title: Re: Montreal....All electric by 2025???
Post by: WMAveteran on June 08, 2010, 01:44:58 AM
Quote from: mrpete on June 07, 2010, 05:32:59 PM
From my perspective this is a seriously pie-in-the-sky delusion. Unless there is an order of magnitude development in battery technology this idea is going nowhere. Not to mention the unspoken electrical grid system infrastructure expansion/upgrade that will be required even if the battery technology, assuming it is reliable, stable and affordable, actually becomes available.

Oh, and what happens to all the hybrids they're acquiring between now and 2017??

 

Response:   I quite agree with you.  These hybrid vehicles make a huge carbon footprint with both diesel and electric propulsion systems and no substantijal mpg advantage over diesel buses.  Replacing the batteries alone is an enormous expense.  We need to break away from our adiction to foreign oil and CNG is the way right now.