whats the worst transit system you ever been on and whats the best!!!
mine is WMATA for best and i cant decide for worst its between MTA (New York) or DASH.
OK - I'll bite. In regards to WMATA I have very little bad feelings about them, but they're also not without some faults.
I assume for the worst you're referring to New York City Transit (there's 6 other agencies under New York's MTA). Now, I'll be the first to admit that NYCTA does lots of silly things and seem to waste plenty of resources. That said, I think they actually do well for NYC residents. IMO, it can be complicated only because it's so extensive. Pretty much every part of NYC is withing walking distance of a subway line, bus route(s) and/or both. Most areas are served 24/7. On the subway all stations are served 24 hours per day, 7 days per week and late night intervals between trains is a max of 20 minutes. The fare structure is child's play to understand and the system itself is a major bargain with free bus/subway transfers, unlimited ride daily, weekly and monthly MetroCards. From a bus fan's perspective the bus fleet is pretty boring, but it has been 100% accessible since '95 and 100% of the fleet has been A/C equipped since the mid 80s.
In a nutshell, I think NYCT offers a good system to approximately 7.3 million passengers on any given weekeday.
I'm curious as to why you find New York's MTA (and DASH) to be among the worst transit agencies.
DASH? I've never heard anyone say we're dead worst...what's your beef?
Quote from: DE40LFR on September 11, 2008, 05:37:23 PM
i cant decide for worst its between MTA (New York) or DASH.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but you should explain why. I consider New York's MTA to be one of the best-run large TA's in the country and DASH to be one of the best-run small agencies.
Quote from: Tristan on September 11, 2008, 10:19:58 PM
DASH? I've never heard anyone say we're dead worst...what's your beef?
He probably got a bus with a spec of dirt on it and was told DASH buses NEVER get dirty.
The best I've been on (I have to say) is Charlottesville Transit Service. They're constantly improving and expanding service on their bus routes.
The worst, by far (and it's not all that bad service-wise, but Damn!!) is MTA Maryland...the only fleet of trains AND buses I've seen with cockroach traps on them.
Best: Ride On...followed by CTA
Worst: A tossup between New Jersey Transit and Fairfax Connector
The best is of course.....WMATA!!!! Bar none!
Quote from: MetroLinerXLZ on September 15, 2008, 03:38:11 AM
The best I've been on (I have to say) is Charlottesville Transit Service. They're constantly improving and expanding service on their bus routes.
The worst, by far (and it's not all that bad service-wise, but Damn!!) is MTA Maryland...the only fleet of trains AND buses I've seen with cockroach traps on them.
Actually we keep roach traps on our buses too, as a preventative measure. Everyone and their momma and their momma's crib's roaches rides the bus.
Quote from: Tristan on September 15, 2008, 06:32:24 PM
Quote from: MetroLinerXLZ on September 15, 2008, 03:38:11 AM
The best I've been on (I have to say) is Charlottesville Transit Service. They're constantly improving and expanding service on their bus routes.
The worst, by far (and it's not all that bad service-wise, but Damn!!) is MTA Maryland...the only fleet of trains AND buses I've seen with cockroach traps on them.
Actually we keep roach traps on our buses too, as a preventative measure. Everyone and their momma and their momma's crib's roaches rides the bus.
LOL. So true. Northwest Division's buses had a roach problem. A couple of operators told me about it and I did see some running around at one time. I'd carry some Raid if I was driving a roach motel.
The best for me of course is RIDE ON and the worst is a tie between THE BUS, Corroded Toe and Howies.
Wow, I'm surprised nobody said DUH BUS is the worst TA with no evening/weekend service in an area with high transit dependency.
The best...I'd say it's between Ride-On and NY MTA. The latter is because despite being such a massive transit authority, it's relatively tourist friendly and easy to navigate with the free maps that are available. Ride-On's always at the forefront of technology and works to make riding transit more convenient for residents in its service area.
As of now....
Best: Charlotte "CATS" in North Cackalacka and Montgomery County's "Ride On" in MD
Worst: It's between CTC (Disconnect-A-Ride), Howard Transit (Howie's Truck Service) and PG's The (DUH) Bus.
The WORST for me is Cheyenne Transit Project (Wyoming), the worst marketing name, bad routes, bad transfers, they use cutaways and two blueturds. They just went (Sept. 2)to a bus stop system instead of the old flagging. I think flagging is the worst idea for a transit, for people waiting for the bus they cant tell if it will be a safe stop, and for people on the bus it makes a horrible ride because of HEAVY braking.
My most favoriteand vote for BEST is Roaring Fork Transportation Authority (Aspen,CO). It runs every 30 minutes during peak seasons(summer and winter) to Glenwood Springs (40miles away)and the last bus leaves at 215am everyday 365 days a year! All the "city" routes are free and those are every 20 minutes except Cemetery Lane and the Crosstown which are every 30 minutes. Bus stops and info are well marked on the stops or shelters, and the seats are cushy. LOL
Quote from: aznboy4305 on September 15, 2008, 04:00:03 PM
Best: Ride On...followed by CTA
Worst: A tossup between New Jersey Transit and Fairfax Connector
I'd say NJT (bus division) is worse, particularly in Southern NJ. Infrequent service (less than hourly) combined with the ridiculous amount of zone fares (you never know what you are going to pay!) plus the absence of day passes is very frustrating.
Actually, Ride-On isn't the worst or best. Every transit system has it's ups and downs. Ride-On does have a lot of routes and stuff like that, but they still have too many old buses on the road plus (a completly off the subject comment) they have by far the WORST route and destination voice I have ever heard. Anyways, Ride-on is great. The Bus isn't the worst transit system also. They could do a lot better then they are doing, but Jack Johnson is an a hole. Hopefully in the next few years, they can improve the transit system here.
I can't criticize anyone's transit system. I know so many people that work for many of them and know that they do what they can with the resources they have. I respect what they do and if it doesn't work, well either people need to be more flexible or there needs to be better funding sources to make it better.
Quote from: Perry on October 01, 2008, 03:43:18 PM
I can't criticize anyone's transit system. I know so many people that work for many of them and know that they do what they can with the resources they have. I respect what they do and if it doesn't work, well either people need to be more flexible or there needs to be better funding sources to make it better.
So true. Like people say The Bus is terrible. It's really not their fault. It's our stupid government here.
Thats why I don't have systems like The Bus or Howard Transit as my worst, they're doing the best they can with what they got. Its the systems who DO have the money and resources but are doing complete WTF crap with it. *cough*FFX*cough*NJ Transit**cough*PACE*cough*
Being broke is one thing, being retarded is another.
Quote from: aznboy4305 on October 07, 2008, 11:23:23 AM
Thats why I don't have systems like The Bus or Howard Transit as my worst, they're doing the best they can with what they got. Its the systems who DO have the money and resources but are doing complete WTF crap with it. *cough*FFX*cough*NJ Transit**cough*PACE*cough*
Being broke is one thing, being retarded is another.
I have always had positive experiences on NJT and it certainly operates one of the most diverse transit fleets on the planet (everything but airplanes) and serves virtually the entire state of New Jersey as well as part of Pennsylvania and New York. I don't believe there is an equivalent transit agency in the USA.
Best: Broward County Transit
Worst: hmm...this is a tough one to decide, considering that I rode a few TAs and liked them all.
...maybe Fairfax Connector
It's amazing how unpopular Metro Magazine's 2003 Most Improved Transit Agency (Failfux Disconnector, if you will) is around here. I think I have more bad experiences than this whole board put together but it's validating to know that I'm not the only one who can't stand that agency. How much has the recent strike influenced your decisions? Of the two garages, which is your favorite? Mine is North because of the RTSes and the fact that less than 98% of their routes are those stupid loops.
I know I haven't been around here for that long, but why all the Fairfax Connector hate. I know their routes are a little inane and their service in parts of Fairfax are lacking (a line going directly from the Metro to the Fairfax Wegmans would do gangbusters), but I just can't see what is so bad about them.
The TA I cut my transit teeth on, (City of) Poughkeepsie Transit, makes FFX look like Ride On and makes PG The Bus look like FFX. Unidirectional loops, unnecessary and inane route mergers to make unridden routes, rollsigned Gilligs with coin drop boxes and advanced security cameras, nonexistent maintainence, poor service hours, and more. If it wasn't for the fact they have limited Saturday service, it'd be worse than PG by far! The corresponding Dutchess County system isn't much better though it seems like a typical rural system that hasn't caught up to its area is fast becoming suburbia.
As for a best: it's hard to pick a best. I'd have to call a tie between MBTA, WMATA, Bee Line, and Ride On.
I'm very surprised little people said WMATA was their favorite. For a second, I thought this topic was talking about your favorite transit system outside of the D.C Area.
Quote from: Scrabbleship on October 08, 2008, 06:40:32 PM
I know I haven't been around here for that long, but why all the Fairfax Connector hate. I know their routes are a little inane and their service in parts of Fairfax are lacking (a line going directly from the Metro to the Fairfax Wegmans would do gangbusters), but I just can't see what is so bad about them.
The TA I cut my transit teeth on, (City of) Poughkeepsie Transit, makes FFX look like Ride On and makes PG The Bus look like FFX. Unidirectional loops, unnecessary and inane route mergers to make unridden routes, rollsigned Gilligs with coin drop boxes and advanced security cameras, nonexistent maintainence, poor service hours, and more. If it wasn't for the fact they have limited Saturday service, it'd be worse than PG by far! The corresponding Dutchess County system isn't much better though it seems like a typical rural system that hasn't caught up to its area is fast becoming suburbia.
As for a best: it's hard to pick a best. I'd have to call a tie between MBTA, WMATA, Bee Line, and Ride On.
Number one practically all of their routes were ones that WMATA had and all they did was just "redesigned" those routes. Can anyone name me a FFX Connector route, other than the 621 that wasn't stolen from WMATA.
Number two, there are areas of Fairfax County that they can serve and get decent patronage but don't. Fairfax doesn't serve Burke other than rush hours.
Number three, they used to have routes that went outside FFX County. Anyone remember the 110?
I am sure anyone whose been around here can think of more.
P.S. Is it me or would FFX County been better off being with WMATA. With all of these service disruptions because of labor issues, the way their pay rate is going they could equal to WMATA's overtime and or cost FFX County as much as it did to give the money to WMATA. It is also odd that other local T/As don't have this problem but FFX Connector.
Fairfax Connector's routes are confusing (South County, predominately), they have bad customer service (I'll give you stories), their connections are atrocious (they don't even connect to THEMSELVES, much less other providers)...I've filed complaints about HOURLY buses running SEVERELY EARLY on SUNDAYS (one time I missed a bus that was six minutes early, another time I was able to run very fast across dangerous Richmond Hwy to catch another on the same route a couple months later that was 8 minutes early) that have never been responded to, I've seen drivers refuse service to patrons who showed up at the door after they have rolled 3 feet away from the stop, again, on a Sunday with hourly headways, I have had buses not show up at all and then their so called customer service representatives lie and claim to have called the garage and find out that the bus was on time - this after I had waited over an hour for the bus, being at the stop about 20 minutes before it was due, and I was only on hold for about eight seconds, how can you call the garage, the garage call the bus, and relay the answer back to you in eight seconds, you can't even dial a phone number in eight seconds, this is starting to turn into a ranting diatribe against them so I'm gonna cut it short.
Go to hell Fairfax Connector.
South County routes aren't even true loops. Trips are still point-to-point. You might want to go "the long way around" from Springfield to let's say Edsall Road (321/322) because the "short way around" was early or there was a bad connection or you missed it for some other reason...but once the bus gets to Van Dorn, you have to get off and wait for another bus. Maybe this is only the case at night, but what's the point of a loop route that ends in the middle?
Quote from: Tristan on October 09, 2008, 08:03:27 PM
Fairfax Connector's routes are confusing (South County, predominately), they have bad customer service (I'll give you stories), their connections are atrocious (they don't even connect to THEMSELVES, much less other providers)...I've filed complaints about HOURLY buses running SEVERELY EARLY on SUNDAYS (one time I missed a bus that was six minutes early, another time I was able to run very fast across dangerous Richmond Hwy to catch another on the same route a couple months later that was 8 minutes early) that have never been responded to, I've seen drivers refuse service to patrons who showed up at the door after they have rolled 3 feet away from the stop, again, on a Sunday with hourly headways, I have had buses not show up at all and then their so called customer service representatives lie and claim to have called the garage and find out that the bus was on time - this after I had waited over an hour for the bus, being at the stop about 20 minutes before it was due, and I was only on hold for about eight seconds, how can you call the garage, the garage call the bus, and relay the answer back to you in eight seconds, you can't even dial a phone number in eight seconds, this is starting to turn into a ranting diatribe against them so I'm gonna cut it short.
Go to hell Fairfax Connector.
OOOoooo....HARSH words man, Harsh words.
But I get where you're coming from on South County. That's why I don't even use those routes unless I'm tryna connecK a DASH bus.
Ride On isn't always up-to-date with technology. That's why you see messed up buses still on the streets. For those of you who said Ride On was the best, ARE YOU SERIOUS? I have absolutly no beef with Ride On, but do they have trains? NO!
Quote from: landoverdivision on November 06, 2008, 10:07:15 AM
Ride On isn't always up-to-date with technology. That's why you see messed up buses still on the streets. For those of you who said Ride On was the best, ARE YOU SERIOUS? I have absolutly no beef with Ride On, but do they have trains? NO!
They have a good system. Not every system has to have a rail system and there are systems that need a rail system (or better one if you're Baltimore). Rail construction costs more than bus operations and takes alot of property to build upon. You also have to realize that Ride On is a county operation. As for the buses thing, it happens but at least they run. They are slowly replacing buses but at least they have decent buses.
True. I love Ride On, but in my opinion, I don't consider them the best. Speaking of Ride On, I have to get some interior videos, and pics of them soon.
Quote from: landoverdivision on November 06, 2008, 10:07:15 AM
Ride On isn't always up-to-date with technology. That's why you see messed up buses still on the streets. For those of you who said Ride On was the best, ARE YOU SERIOUS? I have absolutly no beef with Ride On, but do they have trains? NO!
There are reasons why RIDE ON is so liked over systems like WMATA and here they are.
1)If there any routes that have a frequency of more than 30 minutes, let me know because practically all of their routes have less than 30 minutes--even during non rush hours, Saturdays and Sundays.
2)Yes some buses are ready for the scrap heap but in order to replace a bus with another bus, you need money to do that and since RIDE ON can't self support itself, they have to depend on the Feds and Montgomery County(which BTW-is having money problems) and when the money isn't there, buses can't be bought. And as of yet they don't do midlife overhauls and to a sense there may not be a need for such since they don't do quite the heavy haul service WMATA does. Compared to some other T/As their buses are in pretty good shape.
3)Up until now they have among the best fleet variety of any transit system other than WMATA, in this area.
4)RIDE ON has been the first in many areas, in this area. To name a few are --The first to low floor buses--the first to buy alternative fueled buses (namely CNGs)--the first to put bike racks on buses--the first AND only T/A in this area to have practically all of their routes running every 30 minutes or less--the first to have a paint scheme that isn't a line and their name across it AND the first to be smart enough to realize that WMATA wasn't meeting their constituents' needs and therefore RIDE ON was created(though that was more Montgomery County).
Is RIDE ON perfect no, is any T/A perfect NO. But would you tell me that you would take WMATA over RIDE ON, I would say you need to ride RIDE ON more. Let's just say right now if you were in Damascus waiting for a 90 to come from RIDE ON your wait would only be 30 minutes. Now try waiting at Fair Oaks Mall, for a 2B to come and your wait is 1 hour.
I mean WES, I know where you're coming from, but don't get me wrong here. I love Ride On I have absolutly no beef with them what so ever. What I was saying was Since Ride On is a county system and just has buses while WMATA hs trains and buses, then they aren't at WMATA's level yet.
Quote from: landoverdivision on November 06, 2008, 02:51:20 PM
I mean WES, I know where you're coming from, but don't get me wrong here. I love Ride On I have absolutly no beef with them what so ever. What I was saying was Since Ride On is a county system and just has buses while WMATA hs trains and buses, then they aren't at WMATA's level yet.
You are trying to compare apples to oranges it seems...
Ride On will never be WMATA, because mainly any rail project will be done by WMATA. And I am not WMATA is bad, compared to other large T/As WMATA is probably one of the better ones, but I opinion is RIDE ON has many advantages over WMATA. And as for the point that RIDE ON's buses are old, let's remember that WMATA is currently running 18 year old Flxibles and in the past have ran 30+ year old GM new looks, 20+ RTSs and Flxible New Looks. Every agency at one point will have old buses because of financial issues.
Everyone has their opinion, some will think WMATA is better than RIDE ON and some will think RIDE ON is better than WMATA.
Quote from: WES on October 09, 2008, 12:04:05 PM
Number one practically all of their routes were ones that WMATA had and all they did was just "redesigned" those routes. Can anyone name me a FFX Connector route, other than the 621 that wasn't stolen from WMATA.
FFX's routes weren't 'stolen' from WMATA - the county exercised their right to take this service over directly.
QuoteP.S. Is it me or would FFX County been better off being with WMATA. With all of these service disruptions because of labor issues, the way their pay rate is going they could equal to WMATA's overtime and or cost FFX County as much as it did to give the money to WMATA. It is also odd that other local T/As don't have this problem but FFX Connector.
2007 operating cost per vehicle revenue hour (per the FTA's National Transit Database) -
WMATA bus - $138.97
Fairfax Connector - $78.47
I'm not completely defending FFX here - Tristan's posts indicate that they have some serious work to do - but I would have a hard time recommending that WMATA should operate this service, especially given the fact that Metrobus has such a poor reputation itself.
To shed some light on the labor issues - somehow, Fairfax's first union contract just so happened to exclude a "no-strike" clause that WMATA and other systems have that prevent service disruptions due to labor issues. Usually, the systems that do are either forward-looking or have had long, bloody strikes in the past.
To my knowledge, the other systems have such clauses in place - except at DASH, which is not union at all. There have been at least 4 unionization efforts in the past, the last of which failed because the union pulled out at the last minute (literally: 4:45 PM on the day before the election, 15 minutes before the deadline).
In terms of "work to do", ... nevermind. I thought I was going to post a nice evaluation of strengths and weaknesses and such but I just don't have that sort of charity in me right now. It would take a lot of work to prevent this from becoming a ranting diatribe about county bureaucracy and fiscal tightwadism.
Well i rode on DASH the other day and it was quite nice it was on time and everything i guess ill say THEBUS is my worst probally
Quote from: DE40LFR on November 12, 2008, 03:18:48 PM
Well i rode on DASH the other day and it was quite nice it was on time and everything i guess ill say THEBUS is my worst probally
The Bus isn't the worst. Everyone bashes The Bus. But now, I finally realized why they run like they do. So give them a chance. I haven't rode Fairfax Connector, so I can't say they are the worst. I rode DASH for the first time, and they are definitly NOT the wrst. As for Ride On, I'm going to have to ride one of their buses one day. NJ Transit is not the worst either. Along with NYCMTA. I've heard some pretty good things about RTD (Denver). NFTA (Buffalo, NY), I rarely seen buses around in the area I was in. SF Muni sounds pretty good. Along with the transit system in Houston. Now Connect-A-Ride might be one of the worst, but I think they run like they do for the same reason The Bus does. I can't really do a lot of judging because I haven't traveled much.
Well i like THEBUS but i cant say any transit system is the best but ill say um i have nothing to put on my worst list but i feel really stupid now and thinking i shouldve never started this
Just because there are reasons doesn't mean that the situation is not as it is. The fact is, PG is getting better but they still have a lot of work to do, and I'm not going to give them brownie points because they don't have enough money or whatever, just like I wouldn't ignore the fact that DASH doesn't have wheelchair lifts because of its facility - it's still an inconvenience that we don't have them, it still makes us less attractive to alternative commuters, and regardless of the reasons, circumstances are in PG that people shy away from their service.
So there's no harm in saying that they just aren't good, and there's no harm in having a discussion on what systems we enjoy the least.
Quote from: Tristan on November 12, 2008, 08:18:16 PM
Just because there are reasons doesn't mean that the situation is not as it is. The fact is, PG is getting better but they still have a lot of work to do, and I'm not going to give them brownie points because they don't have enough money or whatever, just like I wouldn't ignore the fact that DASH doesn't have wheelchair lifts because of its facility - it's still an inconvenience that we don't have them, it still makes us less attractive to alternative commuters, and regardless of the reasons, circumstances are in PG that people shy away from their service.
So there's no harm in saying that they just aren't good, and there's no harm in having a discussion on what systems we enjoy the least.
You always puttin' things into a perspective aren't you Tristan?
I try - I used to be a Journalism major ;D
Quote from: DE40LFR on November 12, 2008, 05:45:41 PM
Well i like THEBUS but i cant say any transit system is the best but ill say um i have nothing to put on my worst list but i feel really stupid now and thinking i shouldve never started this
I also think there's nothing wrong with this topic. PG, TheBus has been the butt of our jokes for a long time now. I have to say that they actually seem to be stepping in the right direction. Granted they seem to be baby steps, but it is progress. I was impressed when they got the new Phantoms and look at them now. I'll be really impressed when they decide to venture into weekend and late evening service. Sure the buses will be empty in the beginning, but the riders will come.
Actually that will probably be their biggest success story. When I worked at PRTC and we initiated Saturday service for OmniLink, it was an instant success and in less than a year we had our projected ridership for three years out. There is pent up demand there in PG and it would be very popular. It's a shame it's taking this long for those who have the control to try and work something out. They've always been the red-headed stepchild even when I grew up in Hyattsville in the 70's and 80's. Bus service was always a joke especially with the old C2 ending at 7 or 8PM, the F8 running even more infrequently than it does now, the F4 not even having Sunday service. I could go on.....
Their other big deal would be more original routes...maybe the county is trying to increase service on Metro routes at a lower cost by duplicating them with DUH routes, but that only works if they're scheduled at least some time later than the Metrobus in front...
Taking those resources that go into duplication and putting them into completely new service areas would help a lot with the county's transit situation.
Quote from: Tristan on November 13, 2008, 11:12:04 AM
Their other big deal would be more original routes...maybe the county is trying to increase service on Metro routes at a lower cost by duplicating them with DUH routes, but that only works if they're scheduled at least some time later than the Metrobus in front...
Taking those resources that go into duplication and putting them into completely new service areas would help a lot with the county's transit situation.
Maybe a chance of conscience is in mind for them. Also, PG needs to really put transportation forefront. It's a shame where the rail operates later than anything in the county (even on weekdays) and there is no extended Friday service runs on the buses. The county needs to get out of a 9-5 mindset.
As for the F6, C2, I honestly think the early service ending is due to the gate closing at UMD at 11pm. Even though there is an alternate routing (which bypasses those lesser used stops), there still can be service past 845pm eastbound and 1025pm westbound.
Here's what I conclude:
Best large T/A: WMATA and SF Muni. I like NJ Transit 'cause they're diverse.
Best County T/A: Ride On
Best City T/A: DASH
Since it's not happening, again I have to go back to the elected officials. The residents really need to let them know that they're frustrated with the sub-par bus service. I think it's darn near criminal how PG county has such little bus service, especially outside of regular business hours. A lot of the residents let the county officials off the hook because they think WMATA is the problem. More service is a win-win for everyone as it would eventually affect the county's economy in a positive way.
I think the decision makers are clueless, don't care or both.
Quote from: WayneNYC on November 15, 2008, 10:26:25 PM
Since it's not happening, again I have to go back to the elected officials. The residents really need to let them know that they're frustrated with the sub-par bus service. I think it's darn near criminal how PG county has such little bus service, especially outside of regular business hours. A lot of the residents let the county officials off the hook because they think WMATA is the problem. More service is a win-win for everyone as it would eventually affect the county's economy in a positive way.
I think the decision makers are clueless, don't care or both.
I did what I could. I emailed them, I asked all of this blah, blah, blah and well all I have to say is I can't be a one man army. With a county of 900,000 people, it would help if people actually did something about this.
The C2 is funded by Montgomery County, so that's on their dime to decide how long to operate it. If PG would kick in something more I'm sure they could extend the service a bit more taking out the UMD part. Lots of buses divert from malls or other things that make no sense or can't get into late in the evening/early AM.
The F6 should really operate 7 days a week or at least on Saturdays. I felt that way way before the F6 was in this configuration when it used to operate from Silver Spring to Greenbelt Center.
Quote from: landoverdivision on November 16, 2008, 01:52:24 AM
Quote from: WayneNYC on November 15, 2008, 10:26:25 PM
Since it's not happening, again I have to go back to the elected officials. The residents really need to let them know that they're frustrated with the sub-par bus service. I think it's darn near criminal how PG county has such little bus service, especially outside of regular business hours. A lot of the residents let the county officials off the hook because they think WMATA is the problem. More service is a win-win for everyone as it would eventually affect the county's economy in a positive way.
I think the decision makers are clueless, don't care or both.
I did what I could. I emailed them, I asked all of this blah, blah, blah and well all I have to say is I can't be a one man army. With a county of 900,000 people, it would help if people actually did something about this.
That's good that you've taken some action. The problem is that more people have to do the same. You're correct that other county residents have to get involved. This is one of those things where the power is in numbers. You may have to do it onver and over. Also, you may want to tell others you know to do the same.
Quote from: DE40LFR on September 11, 2008, 05:37:23 PM
whats the worst transit system you ever been on and whats the best!!!
mine is WMATA for best and i cant decide for worst its between MTA (New York) or DASH.
Whats wrong with dash?
Anyway my best is wmata and my worse is Marta this guy on the 186 downtown kept saying he was gonna pray for me and bless me in the aquarium.